Whats all this about racism at Webster hall

[djmarbll]

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Craig Robinson is a funny dude. He's been in a few of Seth Rogan's films. Craig's brother Chris Rob is one of my homies from Chicago who plays keys and does shows around NYC a lot. Craig and Chris even did Carolines together a few months ago.

[Moksha]

what's really disturbing is the protectionist rant by jd. that bothers me somewhat that the b&s crew would not step to the plate for smg when they certainly benefitted from their involvement. considering they both once shared the same space i think it's a tragedy. some unity in the community. that's just mo.

Huh? John just said that, in his experiences, he hasn't seen any racism at the club. How is that a "protectionist rant?"

What do you mean by "step to the plate"? What do you expect John to do, exactly?

[D J 1 3 8]

what's really disturbing is the protectionist rant by jd. that bothers me somewhat that the b&s crew would not step to the plate for smg when they certainly benefitted from their involvement. considering they both once shared the same space i think it's a tragedy. some unity in the community. that's just mo.

no need to step to the plate if nothing shady happened
no need to jump on the racism bandwagon if JD knows from personal experience that that is not the case

buisiness is business
parties usually get booted when they don't make bar numbers
or there is too much drama (fights or other shit that puts the club at risk)
rarely is it anything personal, as money mends fences in the club world

[Jamie 3:26]

the main room. sunday shoutin was in the other room if i remember correctly. don't know about body & soul.

don't forget it's sting AND shorty. this is no joke for them. this is serious business. if anyone lost time & money it's the shelter music group.

webster hall losing a few dollars (speculation) during a time slot that was nonexistant is like the average joe tossing spare change to a homeless person.

what's really disturbing is the protectionist rant by jd. that bothers me somewhat that the b&s crew would not step to the plate for smg when they certainly benefitted from their involvement. considering they both once shared the same space i think it's a tragedy. some unity in the community. that's just mo.

If it really was about community,you wouldn't shit on the same spot that someone in your community still has events at,regardless of what went down between you and the owners.

[liL Ray]

nothin worse than a cheap race card

is that like a Providian credit card vs. the Black Card (talk about a race card)??

[TAD]

Huh? John just said that, in his experiences, he hasn't seen any racism at the club. How is that a "protectionist rant?"

What do you mean by "step to the plate"? What do you expect John to do, exactly?

nothing

[mhd]

no need to step to the plate if nothing shady happened
no need to jump on the racism bandwagon if JD knows from personal experience that that is not the case

buisiness is business
parties usually get booted when they don't make bar numbers
or there is too much drama (fights or other shit that puts the club at risk)
rarely is it anything personal, as money mends fences in the club world

hate to do it, but, just because there is a race-neutral reason for a particular action does not mean racism was present

[TAD]

no need to step to the plate if nothing shady happened
no need to jump on the racism bandwagon if JD knows from personal experience that that is not the case

buisiness is business
parties usually get booted when they don't make bar numbers
or there is too much drama (fights or other shit that puts the club at risk)
rarely is it anything personal, as money mends fences in the club world

what kind of money was involved with the sound system. everybody is talking bar numbers but nobody is discussing the dynamics of the sound deal.

[travy]

has webster hall ever done a predominantly black event in the past?

[D J 1 3 8]

hate to do it, but, just because there is a race-neutral reason for a particular action does not mean racism was present

anything is possible

[TAD]

If it really was about community,you wouldn't shit on the same spot that someone in your community still has events at,regardless of what went down between you and the owners.

put yourself in their shoes Jamie. they didn't walk in their with just their cd books, a bunch of flyers and a tray of bagels & cream cheese.

[travy]

what kind of money was involved with the sound system. everybody is talking bar numbers but nobody is discussing the dynamics of the sound deal.

if i had to guess, i'd say this is what it's all about. can't come to an agreement on money so both sides walk and blame the other. pure speculation, though...

[D J 1 3 8]

what kind of money was involved with the sound system. everybody is talking bar numbers but nobody is discussing the dynamics of the sound deal.

gotta ask Sting that question
this is all just speculation
which happens everytime any one of these cats puts out some cryptic press release

[mhd]

anything is possible

exactly, and i don't know either way, jes sayin, jd saying there is none or never any just does not convince me, (big surprise), no dis to jd though

[Moksha]

put yourself in their shoes Jamie. they didn't walk in their with just their cd books, a bunch of flyers and a tray of bagels & cream cheese.

How does this make it okay for you to shit on John (who has done, and continues to do, such great things for NYC nightlife)?

You talk about supporting each other in this community, then go on to do just the opposite.

[DaBownca]

gotta ask Sting that question
this is all just speculation
which happens everytime any one of these cats puts out some cryptic press release

He goes into detail on his facebook page....last time I posted something like that I was asked not to soooo.....

[mhd]

How does this make it okay for you to shit on John (who has done, and continues to do, such great things for NYC nightlife)?

You talk about supporting each other in this community, then go on to do just the opposite.

huh?

[Moksha]

jd saying there is none or never any

that's not what he said

[TAD]

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[Jamie 3:26]

put yourself in their shoes Jamie. they didn't walk in their with just their cd books, a bunch of flyers and a tray of bagels & cream cheese.

We really don't know how it all went down,but when you release blind ass press releases,it creates a ton of speculation and drama.

I've been in places where the numbers didn't make it and have been kicked out for it.I still didn't cry racism,because it's really about business.

Now,if more info comes out,then we may be able to get somewhere,but for now,it's just pure speculation.

[liL Ray]

what kind of money was involved with the sound system. everybody is talking bar numbers but nobody is discussing the dynamics of the sound deal.

I believe the better question is, why dump all that money and hard work into a place that you do not own? or in a place that has no real interest in you? And then leave the system there to be used every night?

I hope the lesson to be learned here does not go unnoticed. Sometimes we have to be real with ourselves.

[mhd]

that's not what he said

you are right, i should have added that he witnessed

[D J 1 3 8]

exactly, and i don't know either way, jes sayin, jd saying there is none or never any just does not convince me, (big surprise), no dis to jd though

I hear you

but I'll take the word of the guy who always acts professionally and is one of the only mother fuckers with his shit together (doing this house shit correctly, on a large scale in NYC) over anyone who puts out some cryptic drama-filled press release just to start some internet rumors

[Chris Conrad]

shit Ray, even I knew what a GFE was...and don't ask me how either.

[TAD]

How does this make it okay for you to shit on John (who has done, and continues to do, such great things for NYC nightlife)?

You talk about supporting each other in this community, then go on to do just the opposite.

how is saying something that john said bothers me, shitting on john?