Peven Everett Album - Party of the Year

[liL Ray]

the lines for the soup nazi is now closed...a few years now

fixed...

[AMc]

um... what?!

With that said, the house version of Easy Living actually did help promote the track.. No question. But really? Everyone talking business like they're wall street moguls. How much exposure is a house dj bringing to the public? Seriously? 1% maybe. So when i see comments like AMD's it does get under my skin as well.

Um what what?.....lol. I'm not doing a business transaction here - it's a message board filled with all types of helpful info, & nonsense.

Talking business like we're wall street moguls?....lol. Come on - this situation is easy to pick on. Bad business is bad business, period. Anyone can speak on it. Like Wall Street moguls have done it all correctly anyways - comments like those get under my skin.

I dunno - how much exposure is a house dj bringing to the public? 1%? Come on man - who, what, & where is the other 99%?! Should I ask how as well? This is house music we're talking about, isn't it?

The thing with edits, etc., I don't know too much about - never been directly involved, but I can see how it causes a problem with sales/distribution. Although, coming on a message board and chewing up Jaime326 publicly isn't going to generate much profit either.

Simple.

[House]

The 1001 edits, re-edits, and remixes of "Love is The Message" certainly killed that song. As did the 103 versions of "Heartbeat"

[The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove]

The 1001 edits, re-edits, and remixes of "Love is The Message" certainly killed that song. As did the 103 versions of "Heartbeat"

Don't forget the 457,631 Bad Luck edits.

[AMc]

The 1001 edits, re-edits, and remixes of "Love is The Message" certainly killed that song. As did the 103 versions of "Heartbeat"

And cats on here talkin' about Peven Everett being on MTV, BET, CNN, HBO, ESPN....

Looks like we're tuned into Comedy Central....

[bigshawn]

Well, instead they spoke honestly to their customers and fanbase.

They said: "Fuck you"

And this is the hardest part for me to understand. I love his work and even met him a about 3 years ago and he seemed like a cool person. Purchase all his music the legal way, and I enjoy it a lot.

The problem for me as the customer is that I have a feeling of being taken for granted. I try to say that that is not the case because he put out quality work that I did enjoy, but when the label comes out and just says something like that, it makes me question my next purchase of a PE project. WOW!!!!

[dancewordz]

lol @ "mission" bottom line is there is symbiotic relationship between artist-dj-dancer we all need each other at our respective best for this thing to work

respect.

[The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove]

and cats on here talkin' about peven everett being on mtv, bet, cnn, hbo, espn....

Looks like we're tuned into comedy central....

lol @ espn

[liL Ray]

this hatred of djs from the Peven camp will be difficult to explain away, when Peven starts to dj when he figures out he can make more money on the dj circuit than putting out albums. This will happen in less than a year.

they all look down their noses at the dj but then they are your best friend when they have to share that smelly booth with us.

[liL Ray]

What a difference a day makes, and it doesn't surprise me. The words "professional" and Peven Everett shouldn't be in the same sentence. I saw first hand that guy's ego in action a few years ago. We were playing an event, Peven shows up forty minutes late for his scheduled slot, high as an orbiting spacecraft, and tries to demonize me for keeping schedule (after he was accomodated with the same amount of performance time had he showed up on time.) I created a thread about the whole ordeal and his sheeple had me for lunch for doing so. Now, barely three years after that situation that same ego has reared it's head towards DHP.

I remember this....

[dancewordz]

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another thread gone to shite.

LOL!!

it actually made a better turn at post 287. that's when real dialogue began...altho it was off topic lol.

[KBig]

I remember this....

hence my post... scroll up.


I remember this too El. AND this is not an isolated incident, hence my post.

[Querck]

this hatred of djs from the Peven camp will be difficult to explain away, when Peven starts to dj when he figures out he can make more money on the dj circuit than putting out albums. This will happen in less than a year.

they all look down their noses at the dj but then they are your best friend when they have to share that smelly booth with us.

And you'll be the one to book him for the Jamboree. PEVEN EVERETT's long awaited dj debut!!!

[AMc]

this hatred of djs from the Peven camp will be difficult to explain away, when Peven starts to dj when he figures out he can make more money on the dj circuit than putting out albums. This will happen in less than a year.

they all look down their noses at the dj but then they are your best friend when they have to share that smelly booth with us.

Solution - demand the artists pay a fee to the DJ for playing their music to audiences. If not, they can handle their own promotions.

[liL Ray]

And you'll be the one to book him for the Jamboree. PEVEN EVERETT's long awaited dj debut!!!

"Dis a Bidness"

[liL Ray]

hence my post... scroll up.


I remember this too El. AND this is not an isolated incident, hence my post.

I commented on your post...your incident that you post on is not an isolated incident either....but folks get upset when I bring these things up and act all "humahnah, humahnah, humahnah...what you mean by that Ray?"

[Querck]

Crazy thread, but very entertaining........I got my money's worth. Really nice contributions from MHD, throughout.

I have some experience in copyrights, so I also have to say that PE has a legitimate point to make, but unfortunately style is focused on instead of substance. Well, typical DHP, what can you expect........

Also, this clowning/ganging up on important musicians in our genre for their communication problems.........I really don't enjoy it. It's a bit childish. I know they are making it too easy.....but it's still unpleasant to me......

[Elbert Phillips]

hence my post... scroll up.


I remember this too El. AND this is not an isolated incident, hence my post.

You were one of the main protagonists, and I remember wondering why? She wasn't even there when it all played out? But yo, that was then....

[KBig]

You were one of the main protagonists, and I remember wondering why? She wasn't even there when it all played out? But yo, that was then....

link please.

[JMJ]

I commented on your post...your incident that you post on is not an isolated incident either....but folks get upset when I bring these things up and act all "humahnah, humahnah, humahnah...what you mean by that Ray?"

Mainly because you shit on an entire city of talented people by making assumptions based on the actions of a few and attaching a name to them......JMJ

[KBig]

You were one of the main protagonists, and I remember wondering why? She wasn't even there when it all played out? But yo, that was then....

keep in mind I have some burnt up braincells lol so I dont remember the thread but I remember the hooplah about the incident...


so please linkee if you can ...

[dancewordz]

stepping outside of the fiasco..

it's difficult for an artist such as peven and others who compose - creating musical melodies, as well as lyrics, to be pleased with any house remix or edit of their song. especially if they are not into the genre. the truth is that it's going to take away from the song's original feel (even if it's just raising the bpm and adding some additional percussion). so it's not surprising that such an artist would want to approve this undertaking beforehand. granted, the rendition may be hotadef!-but still off base for the artist. i mean prince doesn't even allow people to COVER his songs. correct?

using the painting analogy, it would be like putting an open smile on the mona lisa and then displaying it.. not selling - just displaying. the artist could be appauled because viewers now become exposed to something that was not their intent.

i put a thread up earlier about metallica. they have another song called unforgiven. they have redone this song 3 times but have not called it unforgiven the remix/re-edit. it's just named unforgiven i, ii and iii inorder to keep the intent, meaning and feel of the original while adding a different spin each time.

it's like someone taking some piece i wrote and deciding they wanted to tweek it by adding an additional word or sentence. if i wanted it to have that word or sentence, i would've done it myself lol.

the dj's do play an outstanding role in promotion and pubilicity which cannot be denied. it would be imo illogical to do so. but we have to remember that artists think about their art first. it is an extension of themselves and sometime so much so it becomes the reason they live. at the very least they may want some advance input.

[AMc]

Also, this clowning/ganging up on important musicians in our genre for their communication problems.........I really don't enjoy it. It's a bit childish. I know they are making it too easy.....but it's still unpleasant to me......

Communication problems within a business is a huge issue.

[liL Ray]

Mainly because you shit on entire city of talented people based on the actions of a few by bringing these things up and attaching a name to them......JMJ

I am not the one doing the shitting...I at least am trying to book folks from said city...I even try to go against the grain by booking a talent from said city to show that the rumor is false, and had to eat public humble pie...I am just pointing out why others are not dealing with said city.

but keep targetting and blaming me while letting the rest off the hook....

[liL Ray]

keep in mind I have some burnt up braincells lol so I dont remember the thread but I remember the hooplah about the incident...so please linkee if you can ...

I remember the topic and the hooplah also....I remember also thinking what is the big deal...for that I apologize.