Peven Everett Album - Party of the Year

**Discogoddess** · 05-13-2009, 04:36 PM

Was looking for something else on the site, but stumbled across this, right on the front page:

http://www.housemusicdaily.com/2009/...usic-star.html

*****
For all you Colin Powells out there, allow me to highlight a few favorite passages:

But now that sites like traxsource and stompy and others have placed a cash register in the living room of every House Music fan in the world, you're now talking about creating a marketing campaign that by default is global in nature. If you can sell a record to 100 people in Alaska, why leave the money on the table? And uploading your music to YouTube is a risk-free proposition. It's is free for the listener and for you (though it can cost a little to make a real professional "channel", it's not necessary). It hosts the video for free. It's owned by Google, so it actually seeks out listeners for you by placing YouTube videos in Google's search results (and usually pretty high up in the rankings, too). You pay exactly the same if your video reaches 100 or 100,000,000 people: nothing. It is, without a doubt, the greatest weapon in the guerrilla marketing handbook for independent artists and labels today.

Until recently, in fact, just about all of the House-related uploads were by fans, with the notable exception of smart businesspeople such as Ultra Nate who already make professional videos for other markets anyway. She clearly understood the value of YouTube in promoting her music. And because she did the gruntwork ("gruntwork" that a hundred thousand teenagers do every single day, it should be noted), she's got links to her official site and makes a tiny bit of scratch from the ads that appear on her pages. And she's reaching people who want to hear her music, fans who want to play her music on their site, without losing anything.

It amazes me sometimes, this incredible gift the House Music community has for snatching failure from the jaws of success. I know it shouldn't, but it does.

**mhd** · 05-13-2009, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by liL Ray

"ruining"

that too!

**DJ Timmy Richardson** · 05-13-2009, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by StudioConfessionEnt

Peven's fans shouldn't feel alienated they should feel like we are standing up for our company
Did I not say that Peven loves his supporters and is thankful to play for them?
It seems as though it's all a matter of what you want to make you business I have been more than respectful of people being disrespectful and if you feel bad or took to it personal don't I wasn't talking to you.
If you go back to the thread you can see how it started don't jump in late and judge. Im not judging you and I am apologetic that youare taking this so personal.
Peven was remixed by someone who made complaints about him so I busted his ass out simple. Why should he gig on Peven put his name on Peven's work and never speak to Peven. In Peven's own words THATS CRAZY
If you saw what goes on behind the scenes you would feel the same way.
So please except that I respect your feelings but I think if you had all of the info you would feel different.
Unified Records haven't paid Peven for his music on traxxsource so there you have it more info that probably sucks to hear but is the truth.

I think you are confusing TAC and Jamie. Where did Jamie dis Peven?

**mhd** · 05-13-2009, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Friday

geez, I am really that saccharine huh?

lol!

**Jamie 3:26** · 05-13-2009, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Timmy Richardson

I think you are confusing TAC and Jamie. Where did Jamie dis Peven?

All I said was"I stopped buying the cd's,after I got a blank one."

That's it and that was damn near 4 years ago when I had that happen.I still cop the dl's when they drop,so obviously,I still must dig dude's shit.

I know I am not gonna stand by and let someone try to ruin my rep by making bullshit accusations about me.

I already know what to do.

**DJ Timmy Richardson** · 05-13-2009, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Jamie 3:26

All I said was"I stopped buying the cd's,after I got a blank one."

That's it and that was damn near 4 years ago when I had that happen.I still cop the dl's when they drop,so obviously,I still must dig dude's shit.

I know I am not gonna stand by and let someone try to ruin my rep by making bullshit accusations about me.

I already know what to do.

I know. You actually praised his work then said what could y'all do to make everyone happy. I think this is a case of not knowing how to read a forum or use its quote function.

**liL Ray** · 05-13-2009, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Timmy Richardson

I think you are confusing TAC and Jamie. Where did Jamie dis Peven?

I can understand TAC dissing...he buys more Peven albums than anybody on this board...even sending away to Japan for vinyl purchases of the man's music...and then to be Dissed about it when he said he reached on numerous times to point out mediocrity in the product.

TAC is probably making nice with the Peven camp right now...or then again, if I know my TAC, he is raising hell on that email.

**liL Ray** · 05-13-2009, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Timmy Richardson

I know. You actually praised his work then said what could y'all do to make everyone happy. I think this is a case of not knowing how to read a forum or use its quote function.

no, this is a case of lack of communication.

If you know folks are making remix/mashups of your product, and then going as far as sending you the work to ask your permission and collaboration to release, then the least you could do is either find out why they are doing this (out of respect is the answer) or at least shoot them an email back to say "even though the song in question is 4 years old, Peven would prefer if you do not make and send out any remixes or mashups of his work".

Most artist don't get the respect Peven gets...usually most just remix or mashup the track, boot it, and keep it moving, with the artist only hearing it for the first time in a club setting, while sipping on a rum and coke.

I hope his representative and Peven walk away from the keyboard and rethink their approach.

On another note, we really need someone to start teaching a course on public relations to the some of these house artists, promoters and djs.

**liL Ray** · 05-13-2009, 04:56 PM

I hope PWW don't look inside this topic.

**Dolemite73** · 05-13-2009, 04:58 PM

I can't wait to see PWW's take on these shenanigans. This is like example number 54,977 of what he preaches about....I am sure I am going to get a new quote out of his thoughts on this.....

**Dolemite73** · 05-13-2009, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by liL Ray

I hope PWW don't look inside this topic.

Quit reading my mind, ninja!

**Discogoddess** · 05-13-2009, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by liL Ray

...On another note, we really need someone to start teaching a course on public relations to the some of these house artists, promoters and djs.

YES!

It would be cool if a boutique firm specialized in dance/house music labels, DJs and artists and/or did a PR/marketing/social media boot camp or some such. I've thought about it (given my interest in the music and in small business) but wonder about the margins and the aggravation, honestly.

**liL Ray** · 05-13-2009, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Discogoddess

YES!

It would be cool if a boutique firm specialized in dance/house music labels, DJs and artists and/or did a PR/marketing/social media boot camp or some such. I've thought about it (given my interest in the music and in small business) but wonder about the margins and the aggravation, honestly.

you know you gotta do it for the LOVE....

**Discogoddess** · 05-13-2009, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by liL Ray

you know you gotta do it for the LOVE....

Ha! Hell, I already am (I specialize in non-profit and small biz communications).

**Light Skinted Wif Good Hur** · 05-13-2009, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by JMJ

Is this the part where Robbi shows up with the message?.....JMJ

Announcing Lil Louis and PE...."The Alienation Tour"

**Chuck P** · 05-13-2009, 05:16 PM

where is that "you know you done fucked up" gif when ya need it......

**StudioConfessionEnt** · 05-13-2009, 05:24 PM

HOLD UP HOLD UP
As far as this alienation thing goes. I don't think Billie is wrong for correcting statements that may be biased or flat out wrong. I understand you were offended but, you shouldn't have been. No one likes to see their friend get upset by something said by another person. Human nature and a negative human act are different. We all thought our first love would be our only but, rarely is it so. This happens with friends too. The accused act may make you sick to your stomach but, that's still your friend. You think it's loyal to stick buy him/her when it's just one thing he/she didn't tell you and now you know. I know. It sucks but, don't blame Billie. She just told you info that he didn't. Paying me and giving me my credit is just the fair thing to do. Fact is I might tell the person no. If they ask why I might say it's not for me but I may say it's off the charts. You never know.
This is an example of a dj who handles the business correctly
DEZ PARKES Is one of the Greatest we got

http://nuwaveradio.wordpress.com/200...by-dez-parkes/
Let's try to find the solution to this issue
Sincerely
Peven Everett

**Chuck P** · 05-13-2009, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by StudioConfessionEnt

HOLD UP HOLD UP
As far as this alienation thing goes. I don't think Billie is wrong for correcting statements that may be biased or flat out wrong. I understand you were offended but, you shouldn't have been. No one likes to see their friend get upset by something said by another person. Human nature and a negative human act are different. We all thought our first love would be our only but, rarely is it so. This happens with friends too. The accused act may make you sick to your stomach but, that's still your friend. You think it's loyal to stick buy him/her when it's just one thing he/she didn't tell you and now you know. I know. It sucks but, don't blame Billie. She just told you info that he didn't. Paying me and giving me my credit is just the fair thing to do. Fact is I might tell the person no. If they ask why I might say it's not for me but I may say it's off the charts. You never know.
This is an example of a dj who handles the business correctly
DEZ PARKES Is one of the Greatest we got

http://nuwaveradio.wordpress.com/200...by-dez-parkes/
Let's try to find the solution to this issue
Sincerely
Peven Everett

7 pages ago, this would have been a very good post..........

**liL Ray** · 05-13-2009, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by StudioConfessionEnt

HOLD UP HOLD UP
As far as this alienation thing goes. I don't think Billie is wrong for correcting statements that may be biased or flat out wrong. I understand you were offended but, you shouldn't have been. No one likes to see their friend get upset by something said by another person. Human nature and a negative human act are different. We all thought our first love would be our only but, rarely is it so. This happens with friends too. The accused act may make you sick to your stomach but, that's still your friend. You think it's loyal to stick buy him/her when it's just one thing he/she didn't tell you and now you know. I know. It sucks but, don't blame Billie. She just told you info that he didn't. Paying me and giving me my credit is just the fair thing to do. Fact is I might tell the person no. If they ask why I might say it's not for me but I may say it's off the charts. You never know.
This is an example of a dj who handles the business correctly
DEZ PARKES Is one of the Greatest we got

http://nuwaveradio.wordpress.com/200...by-dez-parkes/
Let's try to find the solution to this issue
Sincerely
Peven Everett

a good start...

but your girl came off all fucked up, especially to fans who have supported you and to folks (in your own town) that has nothing but respect for you and would like to work with you to push you even higher. And so what if their name also go for the ride, it should be a win win.

I am happy you said what you said above, but keep in mind the only reason why the market ain't flooded with Peven bootleg remixes is out of respect for you, the artist and the man....and usually Jamie 3:26, others on this board, and your hometown are the ones telling folks that it is not cool to just bootleg Peven's stuff. After the damage your "Billie" did, I am not sure if this respect will still be there.

I will still love and respect you and your music, but reel in your pitbull.

**DJ Timmy Richardson** · 05-13-2009, 05:46 PM

I smell the I-Team brewing.

**travy** · 05-13-2009, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by liL Ray

a start...

to what?

**Discogoddess** · 05-13-2009, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by StudioConfessionEnt

HOLD UP HOLD UP
As far as this alienation thing goes. I don't think Billie is wrong for correcting statements that may be biased or flat out wrong. I understand you were offended but, you shouldn't have been. No one likes to see their friend get upset by something said by another person. Human nature and a negative human act are different. We all thought our first love would be our only but, rarely is it so. This happens with friends too. The accused act may make you sick to your stomach but, that's still your friend. You think it's loyal to stick buy him/her when it's just one thing he/she didn't tell you and now you know. I know. It sucks but, don't blame Billie. She just told you info that he didn't. Paying me and giving me my credit is just the fair thing to do. Fact is I might tell the person no. If they ask why I might say it's not for me but I may say it's off the charts. You never know.
This is an example of a dj who handles the business correctly
DEZ PARKES Is one of the Greatest we got

http://nuwaveradio.wordpress.com/200...by-dez-parkes/
Let's try to find the solution to this issue
Sincerely
Peven Everett

Actually, I think Billie IS wrong in her defensive, offensive, hotheaded approach. As a fan and a patron/customer, I'm put off by her handling of what really is business between you and Jamie. Flat out, she was unprofessional. There's really no reason--unless you now don't want people to buy your work from Traxsource--that she needed to talk about your business dealings with a label. Again, that was unprofessional. And when she was called on it (respectfully, I might add), she continued her defensive jabs about people stealing your music, and folks taking things personally.

If that's the public face you want representing you here, then, as I said earlier, wow.

I think it's a shame that rather than talk about your new album that dropped earlier this month (btw, where is the marketing push for that?), your brand is weighed down by all this ancillary conversation that really is best handled only by the affected/involved parties. You are way too talented and awesome for this.

**Pang** · 05-13-2009, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by travy

to what?

chill man.

**StudioConfessionEnt** · 05-13-2009, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by liL Ray

a start...

but your girl came off all fucked up, especially to fans who have supported you and to folks (in your own town) that has nothing but respect for you and would like to work with you to push you even higher. And so what if their name also go for the ride, it should be a win win.

I am happy you said what you said above, but keep in mind the only reason why the market ain't flooded with Peven bootleg remixes is out of respect for you, the artist and the man....and usually Jamie 3:26, others on this board, and your hometown are the ones telling folks that it is not cool to just bootleg Peven's stuff. After the damage your "Billie" did, I am not sure if this respect will still be there.

I will still love and respect you and your music, but reel in your pitbull.

The market isn't as flooded as it used to be. That's only because I found help to run my company. I really didn't have time to track down offenders so I look at Billie and my manager as a God send. A pitbull. Naw bru. Keep it civil. When my fans talk to me I have no problem because they are not trying to be in my field or what I am. I hear and see my name come up all the time here and it's always a DJ or aspiring DJ/Producer throwin' dirt on me. I've been seeing this kind of hate since I was 3. Real talk.

I've now grown immune to such behavior. At 3 you don't have enough personality for anyone to hate on but, I still have clear cut examples at such a tender age. My talent has been blessing and a curse. "Beautiful yes, but a curse none the less. I used to get bullies attention for winning which was supposed to be a good thing. That was then and this is now. I have a public persona that I can effect negatively if I ground and pound a dude who wishes to test me so I don't. Don't get me wrong now. Ask around I handle me and mine but I don't go picking fights. That's just silly.

Don't slander me by saying something is ruined that no one has said but those who want to help in ruining me would like to be true. Slander is against the law. It also keeps everybody from getting together. Stop saying it and it will not be. Surely there's more option for something else. Something that helps us both.

When I want a remix I'll ask for one . Tell me who you are and don't assume I know who you are. I may not. If I don't holla at me and we can start down that road. Most djs don't want to do all that. Even when they should. Most DJs are men. The term " Mancrush " is when a man admires another man's ability and being so much that if he ever get's ahead of the subject of his mancrush he will make sure at any cost to stay ahead. He will lie . He will pay and steal and use any excuse possible to excuse why he's being so terrible in order to save .The embarrassment of losing is a man's biggest fear.
Stuff happens. I'm being punished for the creators decision to give me a particular gift when everyone has a particular gift.

I don't steal because I don't have to. You don't have to get pissy unless I'm pissy with you. The problem must never be more important than the solution.

**Light Skinted Wif Good Hur** · 05-13-2009, 07:45 PM

Boyscot!!!

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