metaphorically speaking, can white people do cornrows?

[ngeso]

OR,

to put it more directly (B/C this question has been bothering me for a couple of weeks now):

Can White people teach and tell Black history ?

i did not attend college in the US, so i do not know whether this is an everyday thing or whether it is frowned upon. but i'm thinking maybe of an academic setting. what are the criteria? what are the qualifications needed? can it be done? would it be legitimate? would you attend class?

i'm interested in your 'ifs' and 'buts', and if it is 'not', then tell me why not, B/C i'd like to know.

thanks, people. ngeso.

[Ken1015]

To paraphrase Michael Corleone, "Just when I thought we were out, you pull us back in." Now to your question, and this will be my only comment in this thread. In one of the Afro-American studies courses I took in college our black instructor once commented how one of the foremost scholars in Afro-American history was a white person. Unfortunately his name escapes me but my instructor noted that this person was responsible for setting up the Afro-American studies departments at one of our finest universities. Again I'm sorry but the school's name also escapes me. You may dismiss this info as hearsay if you wish since I have no names but to why wouldn't a white person be able to learn and empathize with black history?

[danny webb]

If a white person 'couldn't' teach Black History, does thisd mean only a Greek can teach Greek history?
If that is the case history is all but lost because no one would be able to teach 'on behalf' of races & civilizations that are now extinct.

I think a white person can tell black history, but may struggle to 'relate' black history. But maybe the problem lies with the recipient?

[Monny JcIntosh]

Ronald Segal ("Black Diaspora") is white, and of Jewish background.

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by ngeso:
OR,

to put it more directly (B/C this question has been bothering me for a couple of weeks now):

Can White people teach and tell Black history ?

yup....

[TAD]

Originally posted by Soulful1015:
In one of the Afro-American studies courses I took in college our black instructor once commented how one of the foremost scholars in Afro-American history was a white person. Unfortunately his name escapes me but my instructor noted that this person was responsible for setting up the Afro-American studies departments at one of our finest universities. Again I'm sorry but the school's name also escapes me.

Mark D. Naison?/Fordham University

[ngeso]

keep it coming.

[Hk]

Let me help ya out with no offense to any white cats overseas (outside of amerikkka).

Blacks let alone whites dont teach our kids to think critically, sheeez, that's only done when they need to make more money it would seem.

Whites teaching blacks about their history is a F'd up thing. Sure, it can be performed, but how is the question. Surely, unless you're a Joe Slovo or something (now that wouldnt be bad), AMERIKKAN whites---(IN GENERAL), will take a passive view and standpoint.

Besides, its these same white teachers that suck the self-esteem out of our kids when they're young. I dont think they'll be taught with the revolutionary spirit (not that blacks would) that like Patrck Henry had, "liberty or death" type of stuff.

If they did, oh yeah, go right ahead and teach em!

[The Donger]

Bono from U2 has done more for Afrikkka and been to Afrikkka more times than almost any Afrikkkan Amerikkkan.

[mhd]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
Bono from U2 has done more for Afrikkka and been to Afrikkka more times than almost any Afrikkkan Amerikkkan.

...and more times than any white amerikkkans, why can't there be more bono's?

[Koffy Brown]

and more African Americans...

[daniel]

Originally posted by Hk:


Besides, its these same white teachers that suck the self-esteem out of our kids when they're young.

oh my god, you're a fvcking moron.

[mhd]

Originally posted by daniel:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Hk:


Besides, its these same white teachers that suck the self-esteem out of our kids when they're young.

oh my god, you're a fvcking moron. </font>[/QUOTE]of course that never happens

[daniel]

umm, "these same white teachers" makes up a pretty large group of people. don't you think?

i can picture it now, secret white teacher/parent only PTA meetings being held to discuss how they can keep the black kids from learning...oh yeah.

my cousin teaches learning deficient kids in an all black school in jersey city, she regales me with stories of how she's sucking the self esteem out of 12 year olds who are still in the second grade.

[YUJI-SAN]

bump^

[imported_Gman]

Originally posted by daniel:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Hk:


Besides, its these same white teachers that suck the self-esteem out of our kids when they're young.

oh my god, you're a fvcking moron. </font>[/QUOTE]Daniel watch the name calling. Note I have not read the above posts yet but Linda works in the Madison Public School system and there is a BIG issue with white teacher's low expectations of black kids affecting there performance. Kids will get away with murder if you let them. I'll see if I can dig up a few of the numerous articles that have been written here lately.

-G

[mhd]

Originally posted by daniel:
umm, "these same white teachers" makes up a pretty large group of people. don't you think?

i can picture it now, secret white teacher/parent only PTA meetings being held to discuss how they can keep the black kids from learning...oh yeah.

my cousin teaches learning deficient kids in an all black school in jersey city, she regales me with stories of how she's sucking the self esteem out of 12 year olds who are still in the second grade.

okay, why not try talking to the students. once again, someone is offended by the speck of generalization and ignores the mountain of truth. obviously, you have never parented a black kid in school.

the shit is so pervasive, sometimes i do think they meet and coordinate

[YUJI-SAN]

Gman what you need is a Moderator

[imported_Gman]

Originally posted by YUJI BR0WN:
Gman what you need is a Moderator

;)

[daniel]

Originally posted by mhd:
someone is offended by the speck of generalization and ignores the mountain of truth. obviously, you have never parented a black kid in school.

yes, obviously i have not.

gman, i apologize and i don't at the same time. i'm just getting a little tired of the stereotyping and critical posts from members of the board that are certainly letting their asses do their typing.

[mhd]

Originally posted by daniel:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
someone is offended by the speck of generalization and ignores the mountain of truth. obviously, you have never parented a black kid in school.

yes, obviously i have not.

gman, i apologize and i don't at the same time. i'm just getting a little tired of the stereotyping and critical posts from members of the board that are certainly letting their asses do their typing. </font>[/QUOTE]not sure about your obsession with my ass, but, it would help if you knew what you were talking about. obviously you are talking out of ignorance and fear instead of trying to learn something from people that may know a little more than you. i have no confidence in your willingness to dig a little deeper.

[Hk]

Thanks MHD, but I think he was referring to I....big up though.

My apologies Daniel for offending you with the generalization....I firmly believe that I am smart enough not include ALL whites. (sincerely)..

That being said, then what does suck the self-esteem out of them?...and if this helps, I'll start it off...

1. THEIR OWN KIND
2. THEIR FAMILIES
3. THEIR BUDDIES
4. The society in which they live, its not theirs in my book(U.S.)

your turn......

Note: these are all generalizations that have deviations....sure...but that's they way I speak (I'd be here forever and a day trying to convey a point and I am bad enough with errors and grammar now as it is, sheez, go easy on me..... :D )....

....of course there's always the "no read Hk!'s--the proper way its spelled--posts..... [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Dr. Freud]

What's with the KKK spelling of America?

[daniel]

Originally posted by Hk:


My apologies Daniel for offending you with the generalization....

thank you. i think this is the first time i've ever seen this here.

i don't think that what people here are saying is completely wrong, just the way some people explain their opinion is a bit anger-tinged when it doesn't need to be. that's all, when you show up all pissed, why expect anything less in return?

[The Donger]

Originally posted by Dr. Freud:
What's with the KKK spelling of America?

It's the same thing with AfriKKKa. I am confused.