FAO Mike Barnes & Lovers of Rap...Drama Never Truly Ends

**BrazenMuse** · 12-26-2009, 04:58 PM

Found an interesting article in which we get some updates about WonderMike (Michael Wright) and Master Gee (Guy O'Brien) from the Original Sugarhill Gang lineup and about what they are up to these days...from a Kid Rock site...

http://community.kidrock.com/forum/t...Topic%3A502086

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**House** · 12-26-2009, 06:04 PM

and folks thought Peven not doing boats was bad

lawsuits galore!

**BrazenMuse** · 12-26-2009, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Palatine William Wilson

and folks thought Peven not doing boats was bad

lawsuits galore!

?
'splain pleez...?

There certainly are lawsuits flying every which way...it's madness. And a textbook case of why one should always handle one's business very professionally and very carefully!

**House** · 12-26-2009, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by BrazenMuse

?
'splain pleez...?

There is far more drama in other areas of the music business. These Sugarhill lawsuits seem like they have been going on for centuries

**BrazenMuse** · 12-26-2009, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Palatine William Wilson

There is far more drama in other areas of the music business. These Sugarhill lawsuits seem like they have been going on for centuries

mmm...they certainly have lives of their own, the lawsuits. There's other drama in the business...but the one thing here that always makes it worth keeping in mind is that carefully reading your contracts and using good lawyers are the things that simplify one's life in this industry. Just read the dang contracts. It's a BUSINESS for heaven's sake.

Ok...sorry...rant was building up. I'm back now...

**Mike Barnes** · 12-28-2009, 01:53 PM

Brazenmuse, Good lookin in regards to the information on Mike and Master Gee, Brazenmuse, MarkB, The Robinson Family continues to play these sense-less games, With former artists, Which, May result into one of the Robinson Family catching two in the neck(I'm not trying to soup anything up, But, For The Robinson family to,

Still try to control cats careers, Well, PAP,PAP,PAP/LOL), Brazenmuse, MarkB, Hank will always be a confirmed sucka in my eyes, No matter how old i get(Hank should be ashamed of himself for Jerking Caz, Out of any type of notoriety in regards to Hank using Caz's rhymes, Along with Hank, Not mentioning to Slyvia and Joe Robinson, Who he(Hank), Was listening to, While, Hank, Was working at that pizza spot in New Jersey, When, Slyvia Robinson approached Hank, During the summer of 1979(Hank was listening to a Cold Crush 4 tape, Featuring,

Caz, Rhyming, While, Hank was working at a pizza shop In New Jersey, That, Slyvia Robinson would go to, During the summer of 1979, Brazenmuse, MarkB, Lovebug Starski and Hollywood, Saw something that alot of other cats did not, In regards to the Robinson Family(On the low, Slyvia Robinson approached Lovebug Starski and Hollywood, In 1978, At Harlem World(116thst and Lenox ave in Harlem), In regards to Lovebug and Hollywood,

Recording the first rap plate in 1978(Slyvia Robinson was attending a party at Harlem World in 1978, Featuring, Lovebug Starski and Hollywood, That's how Slyvia Robinson became aware of the hiphop circuit in New York, In 1978).

Much Respect
Mike Barnes

**BrazenMuse** · 12-29-2009, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mike Barnes

Brazenmuse, Good lookin in regards to the information on Mike and Master Gee, Brazenmuse, MarkB, The Robinson Family continues to play these sense-less games, With former artists, Which, May result into one of the Robinson Family catching two in the neck(I'm not trying to soup anything up, But, For The Robinson family to,

Still try to control cats careers, Well, PAP,PAP,PAP/LOL), Brazenmuse, MarkB, Hank will always be a confirmed sucka in my eyes, No matter how old i get(Hank should be ashamed of himself for Jerking Caz, Out of any type of notoriety in regards to Hank using Caz's rhymes, Along with Hank, Not mentioning to Slyvia and Joe Robinson, Who he(Hank), Was listening to, While, Hank, Was working at that pizza spot in New Jersey, When, Slyvia Robinson approached Hank, During the summer of 1979(Hank was listening to a Cold Crush 4 tape, Featuring,

Caz, Rhyming, While, Hank was working at a pizza shop In New Jersey, That, Slyvia Robinson would go to, During the summer of 1979, Brazenmuse, MarkB, Lovebug Starski and Hollywood, Saw something that alot of other cats did not, In regards to the Robinson Family(On the low, Slyvia Robinson approached Lovebug Starski and Hollywood, In 1978, At Harlem World(116thst and Lenox ave in Harlem), In regards to Lovebug and Hollywood,

Recording the first rap plate in 1978(Slyvia Robinson was attending a party at Harlem World in 1978, Featuring, Lovebug Starski and Hollywood, That's how Slyvia Robinson became aware of the hiphop circuit in New York, In 1978).

Much Respect
Mike Barnes

Mike...I am still amazed at the incredible amount of energy that the Robinson family puts into being grimy. And by the horror that they've caused with all their games. Mike & Gee have closed the gap between themselves and Caz. They have traveled and performed together over the past several years. Hank does not work with them.

**reese 60615** · 12-29-2009, 04:34 PM

the bridge is over

**Mike Barnes** · 12-29-2009, 05:16 PM

Brazenmuse, The Robinson family putting themselves in a position to be grimy, Can put the Robinson family in a position to catch a few in the neck(Seriously), The Robinson Family have been grimy since 1979(I can go back even further/LOL), On the low, The Robinson family(Well, Joe and Slyvia/LOL), Had juice uptown(Harlem), In regards to Joe Robinson, Being crew with mad illegal cats from Harlem, Since the 1960's, So, The Robinson family had the protection

From criminal cats from uptown(Harlem), On the streets(That's why nobody has ever stepped to anyone from the Robinson family since 1979, Especially, Static revolving around money/LOL), Well, Those criminal cats, Who gave the Robinson family protection during the late 70's, Thru the 80's, Are upnorth or layed to rest, So, Anyone with any previous static with

The Robinson family, Can come at them, With, PAP,PAP,PAP, With the assurance of not catching 2 in the neck, In doing so(Coming mad hard at the Robinson family), Brazenmuse, I'm very glad to hear theat Mike and Master Gee, Have collaborated with Caz, In regards to doing shows and touring(Because, Caz and myself, Were the two biggest critiques of The

Sugarhill gang, Since September of 1979/LOL), Brazenmuse, I was watching a video on youtube, Featuring an Interview with Caz, And, Caz had very dis-respectul things to say about Hank(Caz came at Hank, with both barrells/LOL), But, I'm very glad to see that Caz had overcome his anger towards Mike and Master Gee, To perform with them, And, Be crew too(Time heels old wounds/LOL).

Much Respect
Mike Barnes

**BrazenMuse** · 12-29-2009, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Mike Barnes

Brazenmuse, The Robinson family putting themselves in a position to be grimy, Can put the Robinson family in a position to catch a few in the neck(Seriously), The Robinson Family have been grimy since 1979(I can go back even further/LOL), On the low, The Robinson family(Well, Joe and Slyvia/LOL), Had juice uptown(Harlem), In regards to Joe Robinson, Being crew with mad illegal cats from Harlem, Since the 1960's, So, The Robinson family had the protection

From criminal cats from uptown(Harlem), On the streets(That's why nobody has ever stepped to anyone from the Robinson family since 1979, Especially, Static revolving around money/LOL), Well, Those criminal cats, Who gave the Robinson family protection during the late 70's, Thru the 80's, Are upnorth or layed to rest, So, Anyone with any previous static with

The Robinson family, Can come at them, With, PAP,PAP,PAP, With the assurance of not catching 2 in the neck, In doing so(Coming mad hard at the Robinson family), Brazenmuse, I'm very glad to hear theat Mike and Master Gee, Have collaborated with Caz, In regards to doing shows and touring(Because, Caz and myself, Were the two biggest critiques of The

Sugarhill gang, Since September of 1979/LOL), Brazenmuse, I was watching a video on youtube, Featuring an Interview with Caz, And, Caz had very dis-respectul things to say about Hank(Caz came at Hank, with both barrells/LOL), But, I'm very glad to see that Caz had overcome his anger towards Mike and Master Gee, To perform with them, And, Be crew too(Time heels old wounds/LOL).

Much Respect
Mike Barnes

All I can say is that there were a great many tears on some hard faces the first time Rapper's Delight was performed with WonderMike, MasterGee & Caz...and the reaction happened again at other venues...

**Mike Barnes** · 12-29-2009, 06:20 PM

Brazenmuse, I can only imagine, How many of those hard faces that you mentioned earlier, Knew of Caz's involvement with, 'Rapper's Delight', Brazenmuse, There's been many documentary's and information on the internet, To, Reveal, Caz's contributions to, 'Rapper's, Delight', Without Caz being compensated for his rhymes, So, I'm very sure,

Those hard faces, That you stated earlier, Were very happy to see Caz, Onstage with Mike and Master Gee, Performing, 'Rapper's Delight, '8th Wonder', Etc, Brazenmuse, One plate that i wish Caz could rhyme on wax, With, Mike and Master Gee, Is, 'Showdown', Featuring the Furious 5, During the early 80's, Brazenmuse, Master Gee stated in an interview with my man Jayquan(thafoundation.com), Well, Master Gee stated that, They(Sugarhill Gang),

Were not told in advance that the plate, 'Showdown', Was supposed to be a battle type plate between the Sugarhill Gang vs The Furious 5, Infact, Master Gee stated that, The Sugarhill Gang performed their rhymes first in the studio, Then, The Furious 5 performed their rhymes the next day, After hearing the Sugarhill gangs rhymes/LOL, Brazenmuse,

Now, I can only go by what Master Gee stated in his intervew with Jayquan(Along with the Sugarhill Gangs rhymes on, 'Showdown', Being more about rockin a party, Opposed to battling, Though, The Furious 5's rhymes, Were coming mad hard and direct at the Sugarhill gang, On, 'Showdown/LOL, Now, If Caz were to perform, 'Showdown', With, Mike, Master Gee, And, The Furious 5(Featuring, BusyBee or another MC, To take Cowboy's spot), Well,

The Sugarhill gang, Featuring, Caz, Would have a very good chance of smothering the Furious 5 in a battle of rhymes(Caz would take out any MC in the Furious 5 in a battle, Including Mel, Who is not that well verse on battling Elite Battle MC's, Like, Caz).

Much Respect
Mike Barnes

**BrazenMuse** · 12-29-2009, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Mike Barnes

Brazenmuse, I can only imagine, How many of those hard faces that you mentioned earlier, Knew of Caz's involvement with, 'Rapper's Delight', Brazenmuse, There's been many documentary's and information on the internet, To, Reveal, Caz's contributions to, 'Rapper's, Delight', Without Caz being compensated for his rhymes, So, I'm very sure,

Those hard faces, That you stated earlier, Were very happy to see Caz, Onstage with Mike and Master Gee, Performing, 'Rapper's Delight, '8th Wonder', Etc, Brazenmuse, One plate that i wish Caz could rhyme on wax, With, Mike and Master Gee, Is, 'Showdown', Featuring the Furious 5, During the early 80's, Brazenmuse, Master Gee stated in an interview with my man Jayquan(thafoundation.com), Well, Master Gee stated that, They(Sugarhill Gang),

Were not told in advance that the plate, 'Showdown', Was supposed to be a battle type plate between the Sugarhill Gang vs The Furious 5, Infact, Master Gee stated that, The Sugarhill Gang performed their rhymes first in the studio, Then, The Furious 5 performed their rhymes the next day, After hearing the Sugarhill gangs rhymes/LOL, Brazenmuse,

Now, I can only go by what Master Gee stated in his intervew with Jayquan(Along with the Sugarhill Gangs rhymes on, 'Showdown', Being more about rockin a party, Opposed to battling, Though, The Furious 5's rhymes, Were coming mad hard and direct at the Sugarhill gang, On, 'Showdown/LOL, Now, If Caz were to perform, 'Showdown', With, Mike, Master Gee, And, The Furious 5(Featuring, BusyBee or another MC, To take Cowboy's spot), Well,

The Sugarhill gang, Featuring, Caz, Would have a very good chance of smothering the Furious 5 in a battle of rhymes(Caz would take out any MC in the Furious 5 in a battle, Including Mel, Who is not that well verse on battling Elite Battle MC's, Like, Caz).

Much Respect
Mike Barnes

Absolutely!!
I'd like to hear that re-recorded myself...
peace...
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**Mike Barnes** · 12-30-2009, 03:55 PM

Brazenmuse, Though, I'm very sure, Alot of cats would love to hear the plate, 'Showdown', Featuring the Furious 5 vs The SugarHill Gang, Re-recorded, Though, Caz would never agree to rhyme on the plate, Because, of Caz's alliance with Mel(Who Caz is mad crew

With), Brazenmuse, Are you familiar with a few hiphop crews, From, East Orange,New Jersey, Who used to rock in spots(A Skating rink in East Orange,New Jersey, During the late 70's to early 80's, Brazenmuse, I forgot the names of these cats from New Jersey(Right about now, Mad senior citizens moment/LOL).

Much Respect
Mike Barnes

**BrazenMuse** · 12-30-2009, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Mike Barnes

Brazenmuse, Though, I'm very sure, Alot of cats would love to hear the plate, 'Showdown', Featuring the Furious 5 vs The SugarHill Gang, Re-recorded, Though, Caz would never agree to rhyme on the plate, Because, of Caz's alliance with Mel(Who Caz is mad crew

With), Brazenmuse, Are you familiar with a few hiphop crews, From, East Orange,New Jersey, Who used to rock in spots(A Skating rink in East Orange,New Jersey, During the late 70's to early 80's, Brazenmuse, I forgot the names of these cats from New Jersey(Right about now, Mad senior citizens moment/LOL).

Much Respect
Mike Barnes

I think Mel is the one that got Mike and Guy together with Caz. They have done some stuff together over the past coupla years...

See...I was in Bergen county mostly...I will check about that crew, but I would only hv seen them if they came to battle CHAOS II or PHASE II up here...

**Fletch** · 12-30-2009, 04:26 PM

1. This is nothing compared to the Temptations lawsuits!

2. Mike: The Robinsons have had 35 years to catch two in the neck, and haven't. Outside of the lawsuits, they are now a big WHATEVA!

**BrazenMuse** · 12-30-2009, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Fletch

1. This is nothing compared to the Temptations lawsuits!

2. Mike: The Robinsons have had 35 years to catch two in the neck, and haven't. Outside of the lawsuits, they are now a big WHATEVA!

They have, haven't they?
The Moments' lawsuits along with a trillion others...

Oh...and the Temptations suits are crazy!

**Mike Barnes** · 12-30-2009, 05:35 PM

Brazenmuse, My man Troy from uptown(Harlem), Connected with a few cats from East Orange,New Jersey and Newark,New Jersey, Who were well-known for rockin in a skating rink in East Orange,New Jersey, Going back to the late 70's, The two crews from New Jersey were like the Cold Crush 4 vs the Fantastic 5, Of New Jersey(Cats who were once

Crew, But, Had mad static in regards to battling on the mic/LOL), Brazenmuse, Master Gee mentioned to Jayquan, That, Lovebug Starski, Recorded a few plates, For Sugarhill, That were never re-leased(Why is that/LOL), Also, Mel mentioned to Jayquan, That Lovebug Starski was supposed to rhyme on the plate, 'Get on up and Dance, 'By Freedom,

In 1979, But, Slyvia Robinson elected to have the Furious Five, Rhyme on 'Freedom', In 1980, Fletch, The Robinson's have been protected by mad ferocious cats, From Uptown(Harlem), For most of those 35 years, My man(Joe Robinson knew some mad ferocious cats during the 1960's,70's, My man/LOL), Also, Most of the cats who the Robinson family

Jerked, Were mad young, In regards to stepping to anyone in the Robinson family, In regards to static with their money(Just about every crew that signed with SugarHill, In 1979 and 1980,81, Etc, Were in Highschool, With the exception of Flash, LA Sunshine

Mentioned in an interview with Troy, That, Slyvia Robinson, Cancelled LA from the Sugarhill facility in New Jersey, Due to, LA, Being a problem, In regards to the finances that The Treacherous 3, Were not getting(LA mentioned that he wanted to step to Slyvia Robinson, But, He was not allowed on the Sugarhill premises in 1984/LOL).

Much Respect
Mike Barnes

**BrazenMuse** · 12-30-2009, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mike Barnes

Brazenmuse, My man Troy from uptown(Harlem), Connected with a few cats from East Orange,New Jersey and Newark,New Jersey, Who were well-known for rockin in a skating rink in East Orange,New Jersey, Going back to the late 70's, The two crews from New Jersey were like the Cold Crush 4 vs the Fantastic 5, Of New Jersey(Cats who were once

Crew, But, Had mad static in regards to battling on the mic/LOL), Brazenmuse, Master Gee mentioned to Jayquan, That, Lovebug Starski, Recorded a few plates, For Sugarhill, That were never re-leased(Why is that/LOL), Also, Mel mentioned to Jayquan, That Lovebug Starski was supposed to rhyme on the plate, 'Get on up and Dance, 'By Freedom,

In 1979, But, Slyvia Robinson elected to have the Furious Five, Rhyme on 'Freedom', In 1980, Fletch, The Robinson's have been protected by mad ferocious cats, From Uptown(Harlem), For most of those 35 years, My man(Joe Robinson knew some mad ferocious cats during the 1960's,70's, My man/LOL), Also, Most of the cats who the Robinson family

Jerked, Were mad young, In regards to stepping to anyone in the Robinson family, In regards to static with their money(Just about every crew that signed with SugarHill, In 1979 and 1980,81, Etc, Were in Highschool, With the exception of Flash, LA Sunshine

Mentioned in an interview with Troy, That, Slyvia Robinson, Cancelled LA from the Sugarhill facility in New Jersey, Due to, LA, Being a problem, In regards to the finances that The Treacherous 3, Were not getting(LA mentioned that he wanted to step to Slyvia Robinson, But, He was not allowed on the Sugarhill premises in 1984/LOL).

Much Respect
Mike Barnes

...which premises have since burned to the ground. They are paying, in so many very personal ways, for their history...but others are too. And they shouldn't be. It's slowly untangling itself...and it may not involve 2 to da neck...maybe not at all...what goes around, comes around...

**Pete_ is_ niccce** · 12-31-2009, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Mike Barnes

Brazenmuse, The Robinson family putting themselves in a position to be grimy, Can put the Robinson family in a position to catch a few in the neck(Seriously), The Robinson Family have been grimy since 1979(I can go back even further/LOL), On the low, The Robinson family(Well, Joe and Slyvia/LOL), Had juice uptown(Harlem), In regards to Joe Robinson, Being crew with mad illegal cats from Harlem, Since the 1960's, So, The Robinson family had the protection

From criminal cats from uptown(Harlem), On the streets(That's why nobody has ever stepped to anyone from the Robinson family since 1979, Especially, Static revolving around money/LOL), Well, Those criminal cats, Who gave the Robinson family protection during the late 70's, Thru the 80's, Are upnorth or layed to rest, So, Anyone with any previous static with

The Robinson family, Can come at them, With, PAP,PAP,PAP, With the assurance of not catching 2 in the neck, In doing so(Coming mad hard at the Robinson family), Brazenmuse, I'm very glad to hear theat Mike and Master Gee, Have collaborated with Caz, In regards to doing shows and touring(Because, Caz and myself, Were the two biggest critiques of The

Sugarhill gang, Since September of 1979/LOL), Brazenmuse, I was watching a video on youtube, Featuring an Interview with Caz, And, Caz had very dis-respectul things to say about Hank(Caz came at Hank, with both barrells/LOL), But, I'm very glad to see that Caz had overcome his anger towards Mike and Master Gee, To perform with them, And, Be crew too(Time heels old wounds/LOL).

Much Respect
Mike Barnes

Yo Mike "PAP PAP PAP" is a grimy description but you are keeping it real baby, the same sound I heard on Church Ave the other night

**Mike Barnes** · 12-31-2009, 02:02 PM

Brazenmuse, What others are you building about, In regards to your previous comments, About the Robinson family(Brazenmuse, Are the others, That you mentioned earlier, Cats like Bobby Robinson(Enjoy records, Who's record store was shut-down on 125thst and 8thave in Harlem, Due to real estate Developers, Buying out the whole block on 125thst in

Harlem, this past summer), Peter Brown and Gene Griffin(Who passed away a few months Ago), Etc, Or, Are You building about hiphop artists, From the late 70's to mid 80's, Are paying, Pete, Most hiphop throwdowns, Around my way(Southside/Jamaica,Queens),

Ending, With the sounds of PAP,PAP,PAP, During the mid 70's to mid 80's, My man(That's why i love to use that term to describe the feeling in a park type setting, Or a spot, During the mid 70's to mid 80's), Pete, During the 70's/80's, Brooklyn was the most grimy spot in New York(Along with the Southside/Jamaica,Queens, Queensbridge, Far

Rockaway,Queens), But, Cats from The Bronx, Manhattan, Brooklyn, Staten Island, Etc, Did not see Queens, For being grimy, Like that, In regards to PAP,PAP,PAP, Because, Cats from Brooklyn,The Bronx, Manhattan, Staten Island, Were not hanging out in Queens, On a regular basis(That's how the rumor about all of Queens being weak, Started, Via, Cats from The Bronx, Manhattan, Brooklyn, Etc Popping shit about the nice area's in Queens, Like,

Forest Hills, Jamaica, Estates, Hollis Hills, St.Albans, Cambria Heights, Laurelton,Queens, Being the description of all of Queens(Picture that/LOL), So, Cats from Brooklyn, The Bronx, Manhattan, Were not aware of other parts of Queens, For putting tags on cats toes, My man/LOL, Pete, To go to a park throwdown around the southside(IS8, Fantasia,

Le'Chelet, Baisley Park, 48 Park), Etc, When the last plate would end, PAP,PAP,PAP, Would follow, My man(Along with the ocassional cats getting pistol-whipped, For their ice, Loot, Sheepskins(If the throwdown was in a spot/LOL), Snorkels(If the throwdown was in a spot/LOL), Alpacka's(If the throwdown was in a spot/LOL), Mopeds(Park throwdowns), Mini-

Bikes(Park throwdowns), Cheeb(Didn't matter where the throwdown took place, For this to happen, My man/LOL), Bamboo(Same as above/LOL), Etc, Pete, The Term, PAP,PAP,PAP, Is a very descriptive way of detealing the events at a Park throwdown in New York, During the 70's/80's, My man(Especially in Queens/LOL), Pete, The Term, 'PAP,PAP,PAP, Is universal in regards to, Grimy, New York Hiphop culture, During the 70's/80's, My man,LOL.

Much Respect
Mike Barnes