Chavez: U.S. used Haiti to test evironmental weapon

[the crackhouse]

I was reading the below this morning and thought of you guys:

"But neither for the Christian, who saw in suffering a whole, hidden machinery of salvation, nor for näive man in ancient times, who saw all suffering in relation to spectators or to instigators of suffering, was there any such senseless suffering."

" 'All evil is justified if a god takes pleasure in it': so ran the primitive logic of feeling -- and was this logic really restricted to primitive times?"

Francois Niertschze?

Idance

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

yes, I presented an inital case(ie. Chavez: U.S. used Haiti to test environmental weapons) and I provided additional evidence to defend my inital statement after the DHP goon squad thought they smelled blood and came in for the kill...hence the "defense" reference

evidence that you or the goon squad continually and conveniently ignore and refuse to address...posting charts and graphs from the USGS or Hal Turner photos won't explain the happenstance of the fact that the U.N. crafted laws concerning the use of environmental "techniques" as weapons to cause calamities such as "earthquakes and tsunamis"...

Do you understand what you are implying. The US pushed a button a caused an earthquake in Haiti. For oil. Do you realize that if the US knows how to cause earthquakes ala Lex Luthor style, that that means other govt's would be able to figure out how to do it too? Do you realize what kinds of wars we would have then? As I already posted, and you conveniently ignored, there are millions of earthquakes a year. Some you can feel, others you can't. How are we to determine which are real and which are man-made?

[MarkK]

Do you understand what you are implying. The US pushed a button a caused an earthquake in Haiti. For oil. Do you realize that if the US knows how to cause earthquakes ala Lex Luthor style, that that means other govt's would be able to figure out how to do it too? Do you realize what kinds of wars we would have then? As I already posted, and you conveniently ignored, there are millions of earthquakes a year. Some you can feel, others you can't. How are we to determine which are real and which are man-made?

Not to mention if we really could do this, is Haiti going to be our target. Let's assume this lark that Haiti has oil is true, the US is going to get that oil without causing an earthquake.

[the crackhouse]

Not to mention if we really could do this, is Haiti going to be our target. Let's assume this lark that Haiti has oil is true, the US is going to get that oil without causing an earthquake.

Right, Texas if full of oil, from what I've heard.

/Kill/Bush/Terrorism/Kill/President/Bomb/NASA/Kill/WhiteHouse/Kill/GWB/war/Kill/

Idance

[likewater]

I wanna know how to make an earthquake.

Alvin.. he can find anything on how to , Earth, WInd, Water, Fire.. Earth Quacks, Tsumni's, Volcano's, Landslides, Hurricains, Tornado's, Lighting Storms, Forrest FIres, Glacier Shelfs, what else.. shit.. Alvin can find the first Human.. so YOu know he can find a way to help you make an Earth QUack Timmy.. Good Luck..

I know I said I wasn't going to ever get into another Alvin thread.. but this one is sooo I had to respond.

[MarkK]

The US has developed the MOST FEARSOME WEAPON IN THE WORLD, and we use on Haiti, which has no military.

cracker please!

[rhodey]

Read you books from 1789 to 1848. Europeans mostly lived the same shit.

Idance

Europeans were forced into chattel slavery ? What books are you referring to Mr. CrackHead...Loony Toons?

[the crackhouse]

Europeans were forced into chattel slavery ? What books are you referring to Mr. CrackHead...Loony Toons?

You are right, the Zulus were really brave compared to the dozens of thousands people who died for their racist white independance in the whole Europe.

Feudalism. Another form of dictatorship.

Idance

[the crackhouse]

Europeans were forced into chattel slavery ? What books are you referring to Mr. CrackHead...Loony Toons?

And my name is Crackhouse, not crackhead.

Thanks for your apologizes.

Idance

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

The US has developed the MOST FEARSOME WEAPON IN THE WORLD, and we use on Haiti, which has no military.

cracker please!

Testing testing one two

[House]

Thanks make sure it has a accurate size scale for GreenLand and Europe.

"What is 'A Globe'?"



"Things we should all have learned by 4th grade for 200, please, Alec"

[likewater]

"What is 'A Globe'?"



"Things we should all have learned by 4th grade for 200, please, Alec"

[House]

The making of maps that dont accurately represent the size of Europe and Asia is the first "Konspiracy" these cats learn about

and they accept that as gospel too

[likewater]

The making of maps that dont accurately represent the size of Europe and Asia is the first "Konspiracy" these cats learn about

and they accept that as gospel too

hahahahah.. When I saw this THread on Friday I said.. OH SHit.. but PWW.. when I read it.. I said .. ARE they Serious.. WE Making Earthquakes.. Followers too.. WOW..

[SIPA46]

Tiimmy, is alot of people, whom think that the Gov,
was involed with 911?

Do you understand what you are implying. The US pushed a button a caused an earthquake in Haiti. For oil. Do you realize that if the US knows how to cause earthquakes ala Lex Luthor style, that that means other govt's would be able to figure out how to do it too? Do you realize what kinds of wars we would have then? As I already posted, and you conveniently ignored, there are millions of earthquakes a year. Some you can feel, others you can't. How are we to determine which are real and which are man-made?

[MarkK]

We sure have a live one with Rodney Dangerfield here.

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Tiimmy, is alot of people, whom think that the Gov,
was involed with 911?

I do too. That has nothing to do with man-made earthquakes. Are you seriously believing that we made an earthquake in Haiti for oil? And if we can make an earthquake, how long before another country learns how to do the same? Do you realize how dangerous a weapon an earthquake-maker could be?

[likewater]

We sure have a live one with Rodney Dangerfield here.

It's Freakin scary Mark.. they really believe this .. Next up.. How to Time Travel, In the Freaky News Paper today A house on Planet Neptune has been discovered..

[the crackhouse]

It's Freakin scary Mark.. they rea-lly believe this .. Next up.. How to Time Travel, In the Freaky News Paper today A house on Planet Neptune has been discovered..

Fact is that believing in such conspiracies (and I will take off some 9-11ers from it) elevates the reality of these people.
The mistery, the unknown, the unimaginable, the plot, it's the new Holy Grail for this century!

What I really enjoy is the madness that makes them unable to be concerned or touched by pure logic.
They will prefer to connect various bits of various sources of various interest and various credibility as well to create their explanation of the unknown. They don't even have faith to just let go their detractors.

And what makes me think all the times that they would be better playing tambourine on their balls, is that they are playing the enlightned ones, they see through the fog of the mainstream reality.
They are the real Illuminatis!

But it always makes my day, too bad that this time the Haiti disaster is the "decor" of their fantasy.

Idance

[SIPA46]

yes.

I do too. That has nothing to do with man-made earthquakes. Are you seriously believing that we made an earthquake in Haiti for oil? And if we can make an earthquake, how long before another country learns how to do the same? Do you realize how dangerous a weapon an earthquake-maker could be?

[likewater]

You might need a Flux Capacitor to make the EarthQuake..

[alvin]

Do you understand what you are implying. The US pushed a button a caused an earthquake in Haiti. For oil. Do you realize that if the US knows how to cause earthquakes ala Lex Luthor style, that that means other govt's would be able to figure out how to do it too? Do you realize what kinds of wars we would have then? As I already posted, and you conveniently ignored, there are millions of earthquakes a year. Some you can feel, others you can't. How are we to determine which are real and which are man-made?

I'm not "implying" anything...

I posted a news report that said Chavez claims that the U.S. used an environmental weapon on Haiti...

I then provided the actual U.N. document that calls for the PROHIBITION OF MILITARY OR ANY HOSTILE USE OF ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATION TECHNIQUES...THROUGH THE DELIBERATE MANIPULATION OF NATURAL PROCESSES... with the result being PHENOMENA including EARTHQUAKES AND TSUNAMIS...

yes, I fully realize that there are "millions of earthquakes a year"...but I can read and rationalize through the power of logic...

I will provide the direct link YET AGAIN...as to not leave any room to doubt...

http://www.icrc.org/IHL.NSF/FULL/460?OpenDocument

THROUGH THE DELIBERATE MANIPULATION OF NATURAL PROCESSES

they are stating in black and white that the "natural process"(ie. earthquakes and tsunamis) can be "deliberately manipulated"...

who's trying to ignore things here...

you need to read the document instead of posting stuff from the U.S.G.S. that has no bearing on the validity of the U.N. treaty...

[alvin]

You do know that conventions are mostly preventive and not always curative?

Can you imagine that Alvin, the UN may have been thinking about possible scenarii before they occur?

So are you admitting that the U.N.(through) the specific language of this document, attempted to use "prevent" environmental modification techniques from being used to cause "widespread, long-lasting or severe destruction, damage or injury" by way of "earthquakes & tsunamis"???

You still haven't provided evidence that weather process in the ground.
We would be happy to read that.

"weather process on the ground"....

You just confirmed that this SPECIFIC U.N. document is a "preventive" measure..and the SPECIFIC language states that the negative use of "environmental modification techniques" can be used to cause "earthquakes & tsunamis"....

How is it possible to admit that this document has a purpose, yet attempt to feign ignorance and pretend that there is no SPECIFIC purpose...even though it is written in black and white???

But please continue, and don't forget to volunteer for the UN, since you're so aware of the global situation. They need to chill out sometimes.

Idance

is this the best you can do....I give you an ovation...

[DeesKo]

I'm not "implying" anything...

I posted a news report that said Chavez claims that the U.S. used an environmental weapon on Haiti...

I then provided the actual U.N. document that calls for the PROHIBITION OF MILITARY OR ANY HOSTILE USE OF ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATION TECHNIQUES...THROUGH THE DELIBERATE MANIPULATION OF NATURAL PROCESSES... with the result being PHENOMENA including EARTHQUAKES AND TSUNAMIS...

yes, I fully realize that there are "millions of earthquakes a year"...but I can read and rationalize through the power of logic...

I will provide the direct link YET AGAIN...as to not leave any room to doubt...

http://www.icrc.org/IHL.NSF/FULL/460?OpenDocument



they are stating in black and white that the "natural process"(ie. earthquakes and tsunamis) can be "deliberately manipulated"...

who's trying to ignore things here...

you need to read the document instead of posting stuff from the U.S.G.S. that has no bearing on the validity of the U.N. treaty...

Much like every other conspiracy thread you have posted here, it all comes down to very finely manipulated versions of reality and interpretations of old documents.

The documents referred to are from 1976, during which time certain governments were experimenting with cloud seeding technology. \

The documents you keep quoting as the basis for your assumptions does not state there ARE weapons that can create earthquakes. What it says is that it acknowledges that there is no way to know what could be created in the future, and as a precursor to that, a treaty has been put forth indicating that no government will seak to use environmental weaponry.... environmental weaponry being defined as things that COULD CAUSE such phenomenon as earthquakes, tsunamis, clouds, rain et al.

Basically, in 1976 someone said "they're trying to create man-made rain, if they can do this, lord knows what they'll be able to do in 2050, and more importantly, what kind of calamity they will cause to this planet trying to test out weaponry of this type so lets go ahead and nip this in the bud right now and put a treaty together saying they won't try to create these kinds of things.

Now, I know this won't change your minds, because... well... it just won't, but even in the documents you quote, there's no proof of some sort of earthquake maker or weaponry. It's a UN treaty saying no one should ever try to create one...

but go'n with your leaps of logic. I still stand by my theory that this kinda shit is what happens when people are fed too many episodes of Perry Mason, Twilight Zone and CSI, mufuckers living real life trying to blurt out the plot twist before anyone else.

The US has an earthquake machine.

fucking idiots.

[alvin]

the treaty also mentions that states and INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS can use these "environmental modification techniques" for PEACEFUL and ECONOMIC purposes to better utilize the NEEDS OF THE DEVELOPING AREAS OF THE WORLD...


http://www.icrc.org/IHL.NSF/FULL/460?OpenDocument

ARTICLE III

1. The provisions of this Convention shall not hinder the use of environmental modification techniques for peaceful purposes and shall be without prejudice to the generally recognized principles and applicable rules of international law concerning such use.

2. The States Parties to this Convention undertake to facilitate, and have the right to participate in, the fullest possible exchange of scientific and technological information on the use of environmental modification techniques for peaceful purposes. States Parties in a position to do so shall contribute, alone or together with other States or international organizations, to international economic and scientific co-operation in the preservation, improvement and peaceful utilization of the environment, with due consideration for the needs of the developing areas of the world.

Understanding relating to article III

It is the understanding of the Committee that this Convention does not deal with the question whether or not a given use of environmental modification techniques for peaceful purposes is in accordance with generally recognized principles and applicable rules of international law.

now you know how far down the rabbit hole goes....