"The History of White People": What it means to be white

[rhodey]

Interesting white people will discuss "The History of White People" on a message board, they will indirectly state that they are White (not state that to me, but to others, or within a post of theirs), they would state "info" about "Black" People, etc...but when asked a Critical Question...=

"This Program has performed an illegal Operation, and will now shut down"

No Answer.

and then I would get responses from People who state that they are Black such as "Those questions are funny" "Hilarious" "Silly", etc.

White People will get offended - Non-White People will get embarrassed.

[Nay Sayer]

Interesting white people will discuss "The History of White People" on a message board, they will indirectly state that they are White (not state that to me, but to others, or within a post of theirs), they would state "info" about "Black" People, etc...but when asked a Critical Question...=

"This Program has performed an illegal Operation, and will now shut down"

No Answer.

and then I would get responses from People who state that they are Black such as "Those questions are funny" "Hilarious" "Silly", etc.

White People will get offended - Non-White People will get embarrassed.

I would hope you realize that just cause you saw it on the internet - that don't make it true. Maybe you could back your arguments with a credible source [read properly: not a youtube video]?

[ngeso]

The only category I would lump whites into is suspected racists whites supremacists - which is not the same as saying all whites are indeed racists white supremacists.

Oh yeah.

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[MarkK]

Hey Rod, I am curious, did you only come here to preach the truth or do you actually dig house music?

[Monny JcIntosh]

I would hope you realize that just cause you saw it on the internet - that don't make it true. Maybe you could back your arguments with a credible source [read properly: not a youtube video]?

You're getting this "credible source" business all wrong. (Though you're hardly on your own on that.) What you want is people to back their assertions with sound arguments. Admittedly, there's little of that actually going on here too.

Given how little anyone on here seems to know what they're talking about, I suppose it's not surprising that they keep asking for credible sources - lacking any competence to argue for a claim one way or another, they squabble about their opponents' sources. But it's really rather tired. It would be nice to see someone actually try to mount a decent case for a claim, rather than rely on their hazy understanding of something someone might have been saying somewhere else.

[DeesKo]

Well what have you known other white people to say about nonwhites ? You said you heard some pretty LOUSY things, well what was said exactley? I feel it would be very constructive for the non whites reading this post to know the details.

In the 4th grade, I came back from P.E. to find a note on my desk that said "we're going to kill you nigger lover. signed KKK". For months I slept under my blanket, huddled up against the wall directly below the window in my bedroom so that if they came looking for me they wouldn't be able to see me through the window and would think I wasn't there.

In 11th grade a guy pulled out in front of me in a big ass truck coming out of a migrant worker camp. I hit his truck and went into a 12 ft deep ditch on the side of the road and then had to listen to this hick cop rant about how this "dumb ass dirty peice of shit mexican probably didn't even have a drivers license or insurance and couldn't have cared less if I'd died in that ditch.

When I was 8 I had to listen to my grandmother complain that "blacks were trying to take over everything" because her soap operas and game shows had more and more black people on them.

A few years ago I had to listen to CNN and Fox report that folks trying to survive on a roof under the New Orleans sun in 12 ft deep flood waters were looters.

Off and on my entire life I've been lumped in with dumbass skinheads and told I'm a racist for no other reason than my skin color.

Just the typical incorrect lumping of people into negative stereotypical roles that come from unenlightened minds.

Hearing that, how does that help and/or change anything?

Also, FWIW, while others have claimed you are offensive, I've kinda enjoyed this discussion and thank you for making me think.

Now, wanna give that source for the 90/10 claim? If it's verifiable, it could be an interesting nugget for me to throw out there when trying to have a discussion on racism with the next person that drops some racist BS.

[AMc]

Are you white?

Apparently his wimmins are.....

[Moksha]

Ibut when asked a Critical Question...=

"This Program has performed an illegal Operation, and will now shut down"

No Answer.

What is ad hoc theory? Also please cite an example of non white on white genocide in the last 100 years? I suspect that will be pretty tough under the system of white supremacy /racism that I have defined several times in this post. Still waiting for an answer.

Turks against Armenians. Turks against Greeks.

Your turn: Name a white on non-white genocide in the last 100 years.

This Program has performed an illegal Operation, and will now shut down

They control 90% of the world's resources while comprising less than 10 percent of the population.

Source?

This Program has performed an illegal Operation, and will now shut down

The only one dodging questions is you.

[rhodey]

In the 4th grade, I came back from P.E. to find a note on my desk that said "we're going to kill you nigger lover. signed KKK". For months I slept under my blanket, huddled up against the wall directly below the window in my bedroom so that if they came looking for me they wouldn't be able to see me through the window and would think I wasn't there.

In 11th grade a guy pulled out in front of me in a big ass truck coming out of a migrant worker camp. I hit his truck and went into a 12 ft deep ditch on the side of the road and then had to listen to this hick cop rant about how this "dumb ass dirty peice of shit mexican probably didn't even have a drivers license or insurance and couldn't have cared less if I'd died in that ditch.

When I was 8 I had to listen to my grandmother complain that "blacks were trying to take over everything" because her soap operas and game shows had more and more black people on them.


Hearing that, how does that help and/or change anything?

Also, FWIW, while others have claimed you are offensive, I've kinda enjoyed this discussion and thank you for making me think.

You are welcome Deesko, although I'm not too sure what I am causing you to think about... I suspect though, that you are withholding information from the nonwhites here if the lousiest things you have heard other whites say about nonwhites is that YOU (poor victim!) were a nigger lover or that blacks are taking over everything. But hey each nonwhite person here can form their own judgment about whether you are telling us anything that might be constructive in understanding racism whitesupremacy or if you a practicing racism whitesupremcy in the form of deception.


[Quotes]
Now, wanna give that source for the 90/10 claim? If it's verifiable, it could be an interesting nugget for me to throw out there when trying to have a discussion on racism with the next person that drops some racist BS.[/QUOTE]

Check page 13 I responded, also please answer the questions I posted there about your status as a white person. Thanks.

[Nay Sayer]

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[DeesKo]

You are welcome Deesko, although I'm not too sure what I am causing you to think about...

If nothing else, I'm learning about how someone else views life and there's always room for learning when you take the time to try to understand.

I suspect though, that you are withholding information from the nonwhites here if the lousiest things you have heard other whites say about nonwhites is that YOU (poor victim!) were a nigger lover or that blacks are taking over everything.

You call it withholding information, I call it not transcribing the past 38 years of my life in minute detail for no reason.

Given your predispositions, it wouldn't matter what I said, or how much I typed out, you would still claim that I was withholding something, and therefore, practicing white supremecy. It's a requirement. Everything you've built your persona on REQUIRES that white people be practicing white supremecy all the time. The only trick is in how fancy a leap of logic you have to make to get there.

I've tried to have an honest discourse with you and it has been painstaking to say the least. You are the type of person that I could say the sky is blue, and you would claim I'm practicing white supremecy by trying to dictate the color of the sky to you.

Which leads me to the real explanation of what you made me think about...

You caused me to sit here and REALLY think through what I was going to say in each and every post. I've known from the very first post I made in this thread that at some point you would eventually call me a racist and/or say I was practicing white supremecy.

The mental game for me was to word my responses in such a way that it cut off as many avenues for you as possible. I could have let you get it out with the very first post, but there's no interest in that. The challenge was to get you to engage me for as long as it was entertaining, dragging it out so that I could:

• get a better feel for where you were coming from in hopes that I might actually learn something

• enjoy the mental process of thinking, rethinking, typing and retyping and rewording my comments to kind of tease along the process of me saying something and you saying I'm a white supremist.

Check page 13 I responded, also please answer the questions I posted there about your status as a white person. Thanks.

Unless my memory has faded, on page 13 you said you had no interest in proving your claim and/or referenced me back to page 8 or 9 and on neither page 13, page 8 or page 9 did you provide a source for your 90/10 statistic most likely because there isn't one.

It's cool. Have a good day.

[rhodey]

The only one dodging questions is you.

Originally Posted by Moksha View Post
Turks against Armenians. Turks against Greeks.

So who was white and who was non white here?

How can you tell?

WHO determines this?

Moksha are YOU white?

Originally Posted by DeesKo View Post
Source?

Already responded.

[Disko Ole]

Rhodey, are you white?

Seriously man, you need to change your mindset...

[the crackhouse]

Rhodey, are you stupid?

Idance

[rhodey]

If nothing else, I'm learning about how someone else views life and there's always room for learning when you take the time to try to understand.

Indeed.

You call it withholding information, I call it not transcribing the past 38 years of my life in minute detail for no reason.

Translation you chose not to reveal the Lousiest things said about nonwhites when you are in the presence of whites because you felt there was "no reason" to tell the truth about racism white supremacy. I understand the logic, it is indeed racist logic.

Someone who is looking to replace the system of racism white supremacy with the system of justice would "look out" for non whites and tell them the real deal so that they could better defend against it . But you saw "no reason" to do so. The Nonwhites here can form there own conclusion as to what this means.

Given your predispositions, it wouldn't matter what I said, or how much I typed out, you would still claim that I was withholding something, and therefore, practicing white supremecy. It's a requirement. Everything you've built your persona on REQUIRES that white people be practicing white supremecy all the time. The only trick is in how fancy a leap of logic you have to make to get there.

It would have mattered. You could have chosen to tell nonwhites what the "Lousiest things said about them were" or you could have chosen to take the focus of of that and put it on YOU the poor white victim "niggalover". It has nothing to do with my predisposition, it's LOGIC. Your response indicated to me that you follow RACIST White supremacist LOGIC.

I've tried to have an honest discourse with you and it has been painstaking to say the least. You are the type of person that I could say the sky is blue, and you would claim I'm practicing white supremecy by trying to dictate the color of the sky to you.

Sorry Deesko but you dont sound "honest" to me.

Which leads me to the real explanation of what you made me think about...

[IMG]You caused me to sit here and REALLY think through what I was going to say in each and every post. I've known from the very first post I made in this thread that at some point you would eventually call me a racist and/or say I was practicing white supremacy.[/IMG]

Why is that? Perhaps you knew that you would enventually get tripped up by the LOGIC?

The mental game for me was to word my responses in such a way that it cut off as many avenues for you as possible. I could have let you get it out with the very first post, but there's no interest in that. The challenge was to get you to engage me for as long as it was entertaining, dragging it out so that I could:

Ofcourse it was. It became about discrediting me instead of the topic at hand, cause you cant let this niggas here know whats really gong on right? This might be a gme to you, but replacing racism white supremacy certainly isn't a game for me. I have heard people say practicing racism white Supremacy is "entertaining" to white Supremacists, but I guess it's not fun when it becomes too much of a "challenge".

Unless my memory has faded, on page 13 you said you had no interest in proving your claim and/or referenced me back to page 8 or 9 and on neither page 13, page 8 or page 9 did you provide a source for your 90/10 statistic most likely because there isn't one.

Hey you seem to know how to use the quotes featue, YOU could just go back to the page and quote my response , maybe you're memory is fading....

It's cool. Have a good day.

Perhaps I will when the system of white supremacy/racism is replaced with a system of justice.

[rhodey]

For the NONWHITES here:


Please observe the responses from suspected white posters on this forum. I have not called anyone out of theirname, cursed, e.t.c. but yet I'm told,

I need to "change my viewpoint" , I'm "stupid" "dont know shit". This is to be EXPECTED when nonwhites challenge the system of racism white supremacy head on.

It all Cool and the Gang....

[the crackhouse]

For the NONWHITES here:


Please observe the responses from suspected white posters on this forum. I have not called anyone out of theirname, cursed, e.t.c. but yet I'm told,

I need to "change my viewpoint" , I'm "stupid" "dont know shit". This is to be EXPECTED when nonwhites challenge the system of racism white supremacy head on.

It all Cool and the Gang....

Ok guys, I have is IP adress now, MarkKKKK is collecting his physical address, so we can call DeesKKKKKKKo a great representent of our Party!

Let's call KKKKOJAKKKK to the reskkkue.

CracKKKKKhouse

[the crackhouse]

For the NONWHITES here:


Please observe the responses from suspected white posters on this forum. I have not called anyone out of theirname, cursed, e.t.c. but yet I'm told,

I need to "change my viewpoint" , I'm "stupid" "dont know shit". This is to be EXPECTED when nonwhites challenge the system of racism white supremacy head on.

It all Cool and the Gang....

You know, you're not the first freaking looney who comes here...

We're coming to your place, this is a matter of hours.

Think before you post on a messageboard, and read the signs.

I think I warned you enough times!

Idance

[the crackhouse]

Idance

[Armento]

So who was white and who was non white here?

How can you tell?

WHO determines this?

i determine this.



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[Disko Ole]

For the NONWHITES here:


Please observe the responses from suspected white posters on this forum. I have not called anyone out of theirname, cursed, e.t.c. but yet I'm told,

I need to "change my viewpoint" , I'm "stupid" "dont know shit". This is to be EXPECTED when nonwhites challenge the system of racism white supremacy head on.

It all Cool and the Gang....

You are seeing things in black and white, that's why I said you need to change your mindset. Why are you so obsessed by dividing people here into white / nonwhite (as you use yourself)? I can't speak for the rest of the board, but personally I think your thoughts are very unhealthy. The reason why is because it almost seem like you're about to launch a hate-crime here. In which case you're no better than whatever you're trying to preach against.
You're talking about justice, so why all this hate?

I have to admit that I feel insulted by the way you choose to say things. Why? Because obviously, by saying that all white people are racists you're also saying that I'm a racist. I can't bee the only one feeling this?

For the whole board, disregarding color or believes:
You may be black, you may be white; you may be Jew or Gentile. It don't make a difference in OUR House.
And this is fresh.

Peace.

[DeesKo]

Translation you chose not to reveal the Lousiest things said about nonwhites when you are in the presence of whites because you felt there was "no reason" to tell the truth about racism white supremacy. I understand the logic, it is indeed racist logic.

Someone who is looking to replace the system of racism white supremacy with the system of justice would "look out" for non whites and tell them the real deal so that they could better defend against it . But you saw "no reason" to do so. The Nonwhites here can form there own conclusion as to what this means.

It would have mattered. You could have chosen to tell nonwhites what the "Lousiest things said about them were" or you could have chosen to take the focus of of that and put it on YOU the poor white victim "niggalover". It has nothing to do with my predisposition, it's LOGIC. Your response indicated to me that you follow RACIST White supremacist LOGIC.

Here's where your disingenous framing reveals your intent. I posted multiple comments related to the lousiest things I think I've ever heard said about non-whites. Each one of them is one of the lousiest too me for personal reasons.

You quote one comment out of context to suite your needs and ignore the others as they don't fit your needs.

More importantly, you don't know me, you don't know my life or even why those items would be important to me but you're going to sit here and condemn me as a racist white supremist on absolutely nothing more than your predisposed ideas that since I said I'm white, I SURELY must have attended KKK meetings and keeping it to myself to keep you down.

I do not understand how you do not realize you are EXACTLY that which you claim to hate the most.

Why is that? Perhaps you knew that you would enventually get tripped up by the LOGIC?

Your logic couldn't trip up a one legged senior citizen using a walker mounted to roller skates.

It became about discrediting me instead of the topic at hand, cause you cant let this niggas here know whats really gong on right? This might be a gme to you, but replacing racism white supremacy certainly isn't a game for me. I have heard people say practicing racism white Supremacy is "entertaining" to white Supremacists, but I guess it's not fun when it becomes too much of a "challenge".

Thing is... in a lot of ways, I don't disagree with some of your premises but you go completely overboard with your across the board defamation of character with your wildly sweeping accusations.

Normal people don't accuse someone of being a white supremist lightly, and I'm sure you do not either because you take it far more serious than the normal person. That means when you call me a white supremist, you don't mean it in some grandoise, roll with me I'm just trying to make a point, kinda way. No, you mean you consider me a threat to your existance. You consider me a bad person. You consider me harmful to peaceful coexistance

... and you decided all of that about me through nothing more than my skin color.

BUT YET...

BUT YET...

You'll call me a white supremist and then say you haven't called anybody out their name.

Hey you seem to know how to use the quotes featue, YOU could just go back to the page and quote my response , maybe you're memory is fading....

No, I'm not wasting my time looking for something that isn't there.

[the crackhouse]

Here's where your disingenous f.../...or something that isn't there.

Hey Deesko, no need to justify anything to Rhodey... Jus sayin'

He's an asshole and he's getting banned as soon as Timmy leaves the booth.

Idance

[Moksha]

So who was white and who was non white here?

How can you tell?

WHO determines this?

Apparently you determine this, as you are the one who divides up the world into these two groups.

For the purposes of this conversation, and to answer YOUR question as YOU phrased it, the Turks are non-white. This seems to be the general consensus amongst both the Turks themselves and others. From Wiki: "All the Turkic peoples native to Central Asia are of mixed Caucasoid and Mongoloid origin. Of these Central Asian Turks, Kazakhs and the Kyrgyz are closer to Mongoloids racially."

Moksha are YOU white?

What does this have to do with the fact that you refuse to ask the two questions I have put to you. My "race" has nothing to do with your refusal to answer two very straightforward questions. Unlike others, I refuse to get sidetracked by your straw men and ad hominem attacks.

Already responded.

No, you did not respond. A response to this question would be the name of a "source", which you have steadfastly refused to provide.




I'll put this to you in really, really simple terms, as you have now dodged these questions nearly a dozen times in this thread:

1. What is your source for saying that "whites" control 90% of resources and make up 10% of the population? Do you even have a source? (If you refuse to answer again, we can all just assume that you have no source and made this "fact" up from your own imagination, with no relation to reality.)

2. What "white" on "non-white" genocides have taken place in the last 100 years? You obviously thought you were making some important point when you asked me the question in reverse order, clearly implying that there had been a rash of "white" against "non-white" genocides. I want to know what they were, otherwise you once again prove yourself to be a liar.


Regardless of what Monny thinks makes for good argument, I'm not trying to debate the validity of any of your bigger theories about white supremacy. I just want your answers to the two questions above about your previous posts. Nothing more, nothing less. I have no interest in entering into such a discussion with somebody who refuses to support his position, as I think such a person is disingenuous. Anybody who thinks it's okay to make up facts out of the thin air is not a good partner for discussion.

[Moksha]

suspected white posters

I suspect that you're a white poster, posing as a nonwhite in order to fool other nonwhites into signing up for your newsletter, which will subtly brainwash them into further submitting to the system of racism (white supremacy). You are obviously colluding with whites on this thread to keep it bumped to the top in order to gain a following that you and your white cohorts will exploit to further cement your system of white supremacy (racism).

You are now on MY list of "suspected white posters".