"The History of White People": What it means to be white

[Armento]

well i just filled out a form and i kinda had to cross the 'whitey' box... i was very upset about it too..... fuckin supremacist asshole, me

[rhodey]

So what you're saying is that when someone states they are white, they are not refering to the color of their skin via the commonly accepted process of identifying the color of their skin, but are actually and purposely admitting to their participation in white supremecy and that vice versa, if they were NOT practicing white supremecy they should/would refer to themselves as non-white?

They can t be referring to the color of there skin because it isn't white. I believe you are referring to FUNCTION.

In other words, I'm a pasty, irish, red headed, sun reflecting, pale skinned guy, but I'm not a white supremist.

So when you ask me if I'm white, I should have said "no, I'm non-white", correct?

It's not what you say its what you are able to DO. As a white person you are able to practice racism white supremacy. Since there is no way I can determine whether you are actually a white Supremacist I , for my own protection need to consider you a racist suspect. Nothing personal. Consider it similar to locking one's doors at night. Not everyone roaming around is a burglar ....but I still lock my doors.

If I've been lying all along and am actually a dreadlocked, dark-complected Afro-Cuban, but I still participate in the system white supremacy, I should say I'm white.

Correct?

Define "Afro Cuban". Then go back to the definition I presented for white. Then you'll have your answer.

[House]

No surprise here - all his "replace white supremacy with a system of justice" stuff is parrtoed (and plagiarized) from other sources.

Even the "racism (white supremacy)" construction is ripped off.

I could post a bunch of links, but y'all can Google and find most of his posts elsewhere. Start here: http://vowsa.com/ and here: http://cree7.wordpress.com/page/2/

lol

busted

[DeesKo]

So what you're saying is that when someone states they are white, they are not refering to the color of their skin via the commonly accepted process of identifying the color of their skin, but are actually and purposely admitting to their participation in white supremecy and that vice versa, if they were NOT practicing white supremecy they should/would refer to themselves as non-white?

They can t be referring to the color of there skin because it isn't white. I believe you are referring to FUNCTION.

In other words, I'm a pasty, irish, red headed, sun reflecting, pale skinned guy, but I'm not a white supremist.

So when you ask me if I'm white, I should have said "no, I'm non-white", correct?

It's not what you say its what you are able to DO. As a white person you are able to practice racism white supremacy. Since there is no way I can determine whether you are actually a white Supremacist I , for my own protection need to consider you a racist suspect. Nothing personal. Consider it similar to locking one's doors at night. Not everyone roaming around is a burglar ....but I still lock my doors.

But hold on, what are you locking your doors for?

I'm not a white person per YOUR OWN DEFINITION. Just because I'm super-pale, that doesn't make me white because white is not a skin color. I have clearly stated I am not a white-supremist and you have absolutely no knowledge of who I am to argue otherwise.

By my own identification, I am non-white and non-white people can not, BY YOUR OWN DEFINITON, be a white supremist.

Unless of course you're going to challenge my self-indentification based on my complexion, in which case I've proven that your white/non-white delimiter is solely related to skin color, even though you keep trying to say it isn't.

[Moksha]

YOUR OWN DEFINITION

Not his definitions. He's a plagiarist. He's just copy and pasting other people's words.

[DeesKo]

Not his definitions. He's a plagiarist. He's just copy and pasting other people's words.

Honestly, his arguement (and this discussion) has moved around so much, over so many different things/angles that I don't believe you could call him a plagiarist anymore than you could call a bible-thumper a plagiarist. I think he's studied and adopted this theory wholeheartedly.

I understand your angle about engaging someone in dishonest discourse but I would prefer to have him admit this white/non-white delimiter for determining whether someone is a white supremist is in fact based on skin color & counter-supportive to his underlying arguement or to have him explain to me how it isn't rahter than to ignore the banter because he copy/pasted some words from somewhere else.

Just my opinion tho. I have a sneaking suspicion I won't have much time to continue this discussion come the weekend and it will fall off my radar of interest soon thereafter.

[travy]

i really feel like i've let my peoples down by missing this epic thread

[Monny JcIntosh]

The blog Moksha links to is amazing.

"If a person insists that he/she is not black, then as a matter of logic, I must suspect that, at times, he/she is white."

Is this green apple black? No? Then, as a matter of logic, it's sometimes white!

[DeesKo]

The blog Moksha links to is amazing.

"If a person insists that he/she is not black, then as a matter of logic, I must suspect that, at times, he/she is white."

Is this green apple black? No? Then, as a matter of logic, it's sometimes white!

It can't be white though, because there is no such thing as an apple that has skin the same color as a white crayon.

[rhodey]

But hold on, what are you locking your doors for?

I'm not a white person per YOUR OWN DEFINITION.

No I said you are not a white person based on your skin color which is not the same thing as saying "you are not a white person". I suspect you understand this and have resorted to introducing confusion and practicing deception.

Just because I'm super-pale, that doesn't make me white because white is not a skin color. I have clearly stated I am not a white-supremist and you have absolutely no knowledge of who I am to argue otherwise.

You cleary stated you where white early on in this thread. I said I suspected you where practicing racism white Supremacy earlier when you said one of lousiest things you heard about nonwhites in the presence of other whites were your grandmother's comments about blacks taking over the soaps and YOU being called a Nigger lover. I felt that you were withholding information there, told you so SEVERAL times. I also said it was up to each nonwhite person who posts here to MAKE THAT DETERMINATION FOR THEMSELVES.

By my own identification, I am non-white and non-white people can not, BY YOUR OWN DEFINITON, be a white supremist.

Nope YOU said you were white. I asked you what that meant, and never got an answer. In in order to clear that up here is the definition I presented AGAIN:


A white person is someone who:


(1) Classifies themselves as white and have been classified as white.
(2) Accepted as white by other people classified as white.
(3) Functions as white in all places and at all times.



No mention of skin color there Deesko.



Nonwhites who are reading this

Please take notice of how the racists suspects continue to evade my questions regarding the workings of racism white supremacy. They are attempting to do whatever they can to take the focus off off THAT and to put it on me. They are also attempting to introduce CONFUSION into the discussion. This is to be EXPECTED. DECEPTION and (when that doesn't work) Violence are the main tools of the racist white supremacists. Now sit back see what they try next.

Unless of course you're going to challenge my self-indentification based on my complexion, in which case I've proven that your white/non-white delimiter is solely related to skin color, even though you keep trying to say it isn't.

How have you proven that? Your skin is not white, no human on the planet has white skin. I suspect you KNOW you are white based on function. Deesko when did you first realize you were white?

[AK]

Nonwhites who are reading this

Please take notice of how the racists suspects continue to evade my questions regarding the workings of racism white supremacy. They are attempting to do whatever they can to take the focus off off THAT and to put it on me. They are also attempting to introduce CONFUSION into the discussion. This is to be EXPECTED. DECEPTION and (when that doesn't work) Violence are the main tools of the racist white supremacists. Now sit back see what they try next.

Dude, you really need to check yourself. Coming here defaming and disrespecting respected members of this board. If you have nothing else to contribute to this HOUSE MUSIC board, I'm not sure why you're here?

[Nay Sayer]

A white person is someone who:

(1) Classifies themselves as white and have been classified as white.
(2) Accepted as white by other people classified as white.
(3) Functions as white in all places and at all times.

How do White people "function" as White?

That one needs an explanation...

[Armento]

why in the holy fuck is this shit still going on? can we white this thread out?

[Bill Blake]

Look, Jonny:

"Your skin is not white, no human on the planet has white skin."

What's the logical fallacy when you ignore a definition of a term, imply another one and then use it in your argument?

Not to mention taking in account the performative nature of "I'm white."

[the crackhouse]

Dude, you really need to check yourself. Coming here defaming and disrespecting respected members of this board. If you have nothing else to contribute to this HOUSE MUSIC board, I'm not sure why you're here?

Where are the parents?

Idance

[DeesKo]

You cleary stated you where white early on in this thread.
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Because I was under the misguided influence of the white supremists who had taught me (and most everyone else on the planet) that I was "white" in an effort to indoctrinate me into their plans but now that you have shed light on their master plans and have exposed me to the mathematics, I understand I am no more white than you are.

I am clearly non-white as indicated by my functions. You have liberated me from the chains of white supremecy my brother!

Nope YOU said you were white. I asked you what that meant, and never got an answer. In in order to clear that up here is the definition I presented AGAIN:


A white person is someone who:


(1) Classifies themselves as white and have been classified as white.
(2) Accepted as white by other people classified as white.
(3) Functions as white in all places and at all times.

EXACTLY!

Which is to further prove that I am most certainly a non-white. Now that the blinders of racism/white supremecy have been lifted from my eyes and my mind freed, I realize that you have been preaching the truth all along my brother.

I have shunned the attempts by the racists/white supremist to label me as white because I do not, and have not functioned as white. I will not longer allow the racist/white supremists to attempt to use me as an agent of espionage with my non-white brethren.

I no longer classify myself as white & I will not allow the white supremist to classify me as white!
I will not longer allow racist/white supremist to attempt to accept me as being classified as white!
I will no longer function as white in all places and at all times!

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the non-whites!

Nonwhites who are reading this

Please take notice of how the racists suspects continue to evade my questions regarding the workings of racism white supremacy. They are attempting to do whatever they can to take the focus off off THAT and to put it on me. They are also attempting to introduce CONFUSION into the discussion. This is to be EXPECTED. DECEPTION and (when that doesn't work) Violence are the main tools of the racist white supremacists. Now sit back see what they try next.

PREACH my brother! PREACH!

The racists/white supremists are trying to keep this discussion down by subterfuge, interdegradationalism and obscufidication. Now that I've realized, embraced and acknowledged my non-whiteness I realize how accurate you are my man, you are definitely onto something here.

Deesko when did you first realize you were white?

The real question is, when did I first realize I was non-white, THAT is the important question here.


Ask not what your non-whiteness can do for you, but what you can do for your non-whiteness!

[travy]

deesko is white?

***edit: obviously this statement is a little more complcated than that

[DeesKo]

How do White people "function" as White?

That one needs an explanation...

Stop trying to obscufidicate the lessons, engage confusion and deploy deception, you are only trying to obliterate the topic with your dissemificationalism.

[rhodey]

Dude, you really need to check yourself. Coming here defaming and disrespecting respected members of this board. If you have nothing else to contribute to this HOUSE MUSIC board, I'm not sure why you're here?

Or maybe you should check the title of this thread.

[DeesKo]

Brother Rhodey,

What is your take on the Apple line of products? I find it interesting that the initial rollout of their 1st generation IPOD was designed in such a very unique & specific way....

It was very slick, very efficient and also very, very white. All white.

I am of the opinion that the IPOD was released as the first in Apples line of new products as code to let the racists/white supremists know that they would be able to purchase the new Apple line of products and use them to receive headquarters encoded messages as a means of organizing the masses in preparation for the first full-scale offensive scheduled for 2012.

[the crackhouse]

Because I was under the misguided influence of the white supremists who had taught me .../...not what your non-whiteness can do for you, but what you can do for your non-whiteness!

BAN DEESKO! HE'S A SELLOUT!

Idance (but please wash the floor, it has to be white)

[rhodey]

Because I was under the misguided influence of the white supremists who had taught me (and most everyone else on the planet) that I was "white" in an effort to indoctrinate me into their plans but now that you have shed light on their master plans and have exposed me to the mathematics, I understand I am no more white than you are.

As expected more sacasm and putting th efocus on ME and not the topic at hand. Also the classic switch A-roo, now you are no more white than I am when originally you said "I am white".


[IMG]I am clearly non-white as indicated by my functions. You have liberated me from the chains of white supremecy my brother![/IMG]

I am clearly non-white as indicated by my functions. You have liberated me from the chains of white supremecy my brother!

Sarcasm.

Which is to further prove that I am most certainly a non-white. Now that the blinders of racism/white supremecy have been lifted from my eyes and my mind freed, I realize that you have been preaching the truth all along my brother.

I have shunned the attempts by the racists/white supremist to label me as white because I do not, and have not functioned as white. I will not longer allow the racist/white supremists to attempt to use me as an agent of espionage with my non-white brethren.

I no longer classify myself as white & I will not allow the white supremist to classify me as white!
I will not longer allow racist/white supremist to attempt to accept me as being classified as white!
I will no longer function as white in all places and at all times!

Switchearooo away Deesko.

PREACH my brother! PREACH!

The racists/white supremists are trying to keep this discussion down by subterfuge, interdegradationalism and obscufidication. Now that I've realized, embraced and acknowledged my non-whiteness I realize how accurate you are my man, you are definitely onto something here.

Yes and more sarcasm. Non whites here are you paying attention? See the pattern here? Also DID the racist suspect respond to my question(s)?

The real question is, when did I first realize I was non-white, THAT is the important question here.


Ask not what your non-whiteness can do for you, but what you can do for your non-whiteness!

Indeed...

[Nay Sayer]

Stop trying to obscufidicate the lessons, engage confusion and deploy deception, you are only trying to obliterate the topic with your dissemificationalism.

No, I just want you to elucidate on the query in question as it pertains to the mathmatical equation of the previous dissertation...

[DeesKo]

now you are no more white than I am

Given the fact that you were adamant earlier about my functioning as white (prior to my epiphany), and your statement here that I am no more white than you are....

You are obviously no longer my brother Rhodey, I have finally tricked you into admitting that you are a racist/white supremist via my double-counter racial association activity.

You believed I was white and have now acknowledged that not only are you also white, but you are now attempting to enforce your assumption that you are actually in a whiter position than I am.

Notice non-whites how the white man will try to convince you that you are white, but then just at the last moment, he will also attempt to place himself in a "whiter" position than you so as to maintain a sense of self-importance over even his presumably white brethren.

You, rhodey, have been a secret agent deployed by the racists/white supremists all along in an attempt to promote subterfuge and inter-racial dischord as part of the larger plan of the racists/white supremists and have been outed.

For all non-whites, notice how when he replies, rhodey will attempt to change the subject from his whiteness with more smoke & mirrors.

[DeesKo]

No, I just want you to elucidate on the query in question as it pertains to the mathmatical equation of the previous dissertation...

[non-whites]

Notice the use of the word elucidate?

notice the e at the beginning. The E is the acknowledged moniker indicating electronic, also known as the internet. Notice the next 4 letters? Luci... as in LUCIFER.

Electronic Lucifer Date

The date of the electronic Lucifer.

Today is the date we will all meet Lucifer on the internet.

Lucifer to be taken in it's obvious meaning as.....

THE WHITE DEVIL!!!!

[/non-whites]