"The History of White People": What it means to be white

[rhodey]

Part of the problem with this thread is that there's no agreed conception of who counts as white.

Really but then white people seem to know who is white, they seem to be in agreement. I mean do YOU know if you're white?

Am I white only if I'm the same colour as a white crayon? (Am I?) Am I white only if (most?) people would say I am? Am I white only if I look similar to certain people? (Who? And in what ways similar?) Am I white only if I come from the same place as certain people? (Who? And where are they from?) Am I white only if I have certain genes? (Which ones?) Am I white only if I am part of a certain power structure? (Which power structure? Which parts?) Am I white only if I identify myself as such? (On what basis is that identification supposed to rest? One of the above? A different one?)

Good questions so what are the answers? This non white would like to know.

[DeesKo]

Really but then white people seem to know who is white, they seem to be in agreement. I mean do YOU know if you're white?

Good questions so what are the answers? This non white would like to know.

Oh stop trying to play coy, you already got caught, just admit it. You define white people the same way as everyone else, by their skin color.

You just choose to add or remove variations to what is considered "white skin" as needed to perpetuate the theory that you have less power than ANYONE else.

[rhodey]

Rhodey believes all of the haves = white & all of the have nots = non-white.

Really were did I say that Deesko? Unless you can quote me I would suspect you're practicing racism again in the form of deception. I suspect having a truthful discussion on "What it means to be white" requires you to make up false statements and run with it. If replacing racism white Supremacy with justice was high on your list would you being doing this?

[ngeso]

[...]Here are some white supremacist certified definitions for the word ghetto:

Originally used in Venice to describe the area where Jews were compelled to live, a ghetto is now described as a "portion of a city in which members of a minority group live; especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure." [1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghetto

ghetto (plural ghettos or ghettoes)

1. The district in a city where Jews were compelled to confine themselves.

The Jews of Venice were confined to the ghèto, in what is now the Arsenale district

2. A district where members of an ethnic, religious or cultural minority are congregated, usually voluntarily.

The Castro district of San Francisco is a gay ghetto.
Beverley Hills is the ghetto of L.A.'s glitterati.
The term Chinatown denotes a Chinese Ghetto.

3. An economically depressed urban district predominantly inhabited by members of one ethnic or religious group.

Bedford-Stuyvesant and Brownsville are often cited as African-American ghettos in New York City.

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My opinion, is that the term "ghetto" represents a non-white person. That's the reason we can't get away from. It goes wherever we go. We (non-white people) ARE the "ghetto" .Racism (white supremacy) produces a "ghetto" by producing non-white people.

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Am I understanding correctly that in post #308 you first provide a number of definitions (white supremacist "certified", according to you) of the term "ghetto" to bolster your argument, and then you go ahead and discount all those white supremacist definitions that do not fit your picture?



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[Monny JcIntosh]

Good questions so what are the answers? This non white would like to know.

On what basis have you decided that you're not white? Or that Turks are white? Or that the Chinese are not white?

[Monny JcIntosh]

Really but then white people seem to know who is white, they seem to be in agreement. I mean do YOU know if you're white?

Which people seem to be in agreement? Who are these white people you're talking about? Until you tell me what you mean by "white people", how am I supposed to know if I'm one of them?

[ngeso]

Really were did I say that Deesko? Unless you can quote me I would suspect you're practicing racism again in the form of deception. I suspect having a truthful discussion on "What it means to be white" requires you to make up false statements and run with it. If replacing racism white Supremacy with justice was high on your list would you being doing this?

Q.

"replacing racism white Supremacy with justice".....can you perhaps expand on what this entails in a practical sense? Who determines what justice is? Who is this justice accorded to?

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[rhodey]

On what basis have you decided that you're not white? Or that Turks are white? Or that the Chinese are not white?

That's what I am told, every day of my life by people that classify themselves as white . When I ask a white person what it means to be white I never get I clear answer. So if YOU know you're white, there must be some determinant factors. What are they? If you don't know could you ask white person who does for me. Thanks.

[DeesKo]

Really were did I say that Deesko? Unless you can quote me I would suspect you're practicing racism again in the form of deception.

OK.

People with power (and not necessarily white ones, either) use that power to create and enforce belief systems against unempowered people.

And what skin color are the vast majority of those people?

Exactly....

I suspect having a truthful discussion on "What it means to be white" requires you to make up false statements and run with it.

Unfortunately for you, I have remained consistent throughout this thread. You, on the other hand are developing quite the resume for making false statements and running with them so by all available proof, it is you who are practicing deception.

If needed I can go back and re-quote the part where you argued for 15 pages that white didn't mean skin color & then accidentally admitted that it did actually mean precisely that.

If needed I can go back and re-quote your sourceless 90/10 stat.

etc etc etc

[rhodey]

Q.

"replacing racism white Supremacy with justice".....can you perhaps expand on what this entails in a practical sense? Who determines what justice is? Who is this justice accorded to?

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Good question. Justice meaning that no person is mistreated and guaranteeing the person that needs help the most gets the most help. Under the system of racism white supremacy justice does not, cannot exist. I don't believe it has ever existed.

[206REFUGEE]

Look at the rampant DENIAL in this thread.

You Supremacist know enfatically that you have been gifted by a white conscious Power built up on "Gun Powder, Deceit and Lies and Larceny"


To deny it is to protect THAT power.

Then again, since you have been propagandarized since birth....What would you know?

The U.S. Government and its bullshit ass Media have colonized your mind. While the Corporations via Capitalism that Run the Government are some Greedy ass Bastard that only care about their Greedy ass Shareholders. While they plunder lands in Third world countries. Yet here you white supremacist are arguing over a few crumbs tossed your way and "a so called" false-pride status?

White People think: "I've done everything right all my life, I'm a god-fearing Christian, I'm white, I'm male, I've worked hard, and I carry a gun. I do everything I'm supposed to do. And I'm getting shafted." And in fact you ARE getting shafted. For 30 years your wages have stagnated or declined, the social conditions have worsened, your children are going crazy, there are no GOOD schools, and you still broke, busted, and heavily taxed,


You really believe you and your people ARE special....when in reality - you and your propagandized mind aint doing nothing but protecting the

THIEVIN AS THUGS............a/k/a known as the corporatacracy.

[the crackhouse]

That's what I am told, every day of my life by people that classify themselves as white . When I ask a white person what it means to be white I never get I clear answer. So if YOU know you're white, there must be some determinant factors. What are they? If you don't know could you ask white person who does for me. Thanks.

I'm white because Rhodey said so.

But Rhodey says he's not sure I am, so I'm not sure anymore.

Rhodey says I should be careful because, if I'm white, I could be a racist/supremacist.

But Rhodey doesn't know who is white, so I really don't know what he means.

Sometimes I wish Rhodey would tell me what it is to be white.

But Rhodey, oh... He asks everyone if they are white, all the time.

In cyberlife.

And when someone tells him he's white, Rhodey is suspecting him.

I don't know if Rhodey suspects me.

What if Rhodey had never found anyone who would identify as "white"?

What would Rhodey do?

I really don't know.

Idance

[MarkK]

Look at the rampant DENIAL in this thread.

You Supremacist know enfatically that you have been gifted by a white conscious Power built up on "Gun Powder, Deceit and Lies and Larceny"


To deny it is to protect THAT power.

Then again, since you have been propagandarized since birth....What would you know?

The U.S. Government and its bullshit ass Media have colonized your mind. While the Corporations via Capitalism that Run the Government are some Greedy ass Bastard that only care about their Greedy ass Shareholders. While they plunder lands in Third world countries. Yet here you white supremacist are arguing over a few crumbs tossed your way and "a so called" false-pride status?

White People think: "I've done everything right all my life, I'm a god-fearing Christian, I'm white, I'm male, I've worked hard, and I carry a gun. I do everything I'm supposed to do. And I'm getting shafted." And in fact you ARE getting shafted. For 30 years your wages have stagnated or declined, the social conditions have worsened, your children are going crazy, there are no GOOD schools, and you still broke, busted, and heavily taxed,


You really believe you and your people ARE special....when in reality - you and your propagandized mind aint doing nothing but protecting the

THIEVIN AS THUGS............a/k/a known as the corporatacracy.

Speak for yourself, the people on this board (white and otherwise) are thriving.

[rhodey]

Which people seem to be in agreement? Who are these white people you're talking about? Until you tell me what you mean by "white people", how am I supposed to know if I'm one of them?

Well let's start from the beginning- by the way this only works if you are truthful. Are you white?

[the crackhouse]

Look at the rampant DENIAL in this thread.

You Supremacist know enfatically that you have been gifted by a white conscious Power built up on "Gun Powder, Deceit and Lies and Larceny"


To deny it is to protect THAT power.

Then again, since you have been propagandarized since birth....What would you know?

The U.S. Government and its bullshit ass Media have colonized your mind. While the Corporations via Capitalism that Run the Government are some Greedy ass Bastard that only care about their Greedy ass Shareholders. While they plunder lands in Third world countries. Yet here you white supremacist are arguing over a few crumbs tossed your way and "a so called" false-pride status?

White People think: "I've done everything right all my life, I'm a god-fearing Christian, I'm white, I'm male, I've worked hard, and I carry a gun. I do everything I'm supposed to do. And I'm getting shafted." And in fact you ARE getting shafted. For 30 years your wages have stagnated or declined, the social conditions have worsened, your children are going crazy, there are no GOOD schools, and you still broke, busted, and heavily taxed,


You really believe you and your people ARE special....when in reality - you and your propagandized mind aint doing nothing but protecting the

THIEVIN AS THUGS............a/k/a known as the corporatacracy.

Now that guy has really travelled all over the globe, I tell you!!!

Idance

[the crackhouse]

Well let's start from the beginning- by the way this only works if you are truthful. Are you white?

I know, I know:
White = Evil ///// Non White = Good

Say you're nonwhite Monny! Nonwhite!

Idance

[Monny JcIntosh]

That's what I am told, every day of my life by people that classify themselves as white . When I ask a white person what it means to be white I never get I clear answer. So if YOU know you're white, there must be some determinant factors. What are they? If you don't know could you ask white person who does for me. Thanks.

People tell you that Turks, but neither you nor the Chinese, are white? Every day? People that classify themselves as white? Are all these people agreed on who is white and on who isn't?

If so, why doesn't that constitute a clear definition of "white person": all and only those people classified as white by people who classify themselves as white? What's that got to do with justice, or white supremacy?

If not, then who exactly is saying that Turks but neither you nor the Chinese are white?

[Moksha]

Well let's start from the beginning- by the way this only works if you are truthful. Are you white?

Nobody is white. Didn't you read the original post in this topic?

[the crackhouse]

this might be the greatest troll in history

REEFUDJ 138 is no storyteller!

Idance

[ngeso]

Good question. Justice meaning that no person is mistreated and guaranteeing the person that needs help the most gets the most help. Under the system of racism white supremacy justice does not, cannot exist. I don't believe it has ever existed.

Take from the rich, give to the poor. Take the most from the richest, give the most to the poorest. In theory an equilibrium is attained with everyone having the same power and means.

Essentially communism, no?

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[the crackhouse]

Hopefully we're gonna have this useless thread for months.

Where's Alvin for Antechrist's sake?

Idance

[Monny JcIntosh]

Well let's start from the beginning- by the way this only works if you are truthful. Are you white?

As ought to be obvious by now, I'm trying to work out what you mean by "white".

[rhodey]

People tell you that Turks, but neither you nor the Chinese, are white? Every day? People that classify themselves as white? Are all these people agreed on who is white and on who isn't?

If so, why doesn't that constitute a clear definition of "white person": all and only those people classified as white by people who classify themselves as white? What's that got to do with justice, or white supremacy?

If not, then who exactly is saying that Turks but neither you nor the Chinese are white?

You see.... this is what I run into. I want to get down to the bottom of this but then you get evasive. Lets stay focused here ,Monny, are you white?

[ngeso]

Look at the rampant DENIAL in this thread.

You Supremacist know enfatically that you have been gifted by a white conscious Power built up on "Gun Powder, Deceit and Lies and Larceny"


To deny it is to protect THAT power.

Then again, since you have been propagandarized since birth....What would you know?

The U.S. Government and its bullshit ass Media have colonized your mind. While the Corporations via Capitalism that Run the Government are some Greedy ass Bastard that only care about their Greedy ass Shareholders. While they plunder lands in Third world countries. Yet here you white supremacist are arguing over a few crumbs tossed your way and "a so called" false-pride status?

White People think: "I've done everything right all my life, I'm a god-fearing Christian, I'm white, I'm male, I've worked hard, and I carry a gun. I do everything I'm supposed to do. And I'm getting shafted." And in fact you ARE getting shafted. For 30 years your wages have stagnated or declined, the social conditions have worsened, your children are going crazy, there are no GOOD schools, and you still broke, busted, and heavily taxed,


You really believe you and your people ARE special....when in reality - you and your propagandized mind aint doing nothing but protecting the

THIEVIN AS THUGS............a/k/a known as the corporatacracy.

But you're not?

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[the crackhouse]

Take from the rich, give to the poor. Take the most from the richest, give the most to the poorest. In theory an equilibrium is attained with everyone having the same power and means.

Essentially communism, no?

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Sorry Ngeso, I'll jump on your idea:

Why don't we give all the money to the white people?

That way everyone would say "I'm white, I'm white!", and everyone would have the money.
That's justice for all, you can choose the same camp as everyone!

Except the animals, cause they can't talk.

There's still a problem of justice, I've been working on this all day long.

We should give money to the animals.

And the robots.

The white robots.

Idance