"The History of White People": What it means to be white

[ngeso]

"AS A NON WHITE PERSON I THINK WHITE PEOPLE SHOULD REPLACE THE CURRENT SYSTEM OF MISTREATMENT BASED ON COLOR WITH A SYSTEM OF JUSTICE, THIS WOULD PRODUCE PEACE..."

Good question, I don't know. Ultimately I suspect it would come down to a decision which would not be mine to make. Either the white supremacists choose to STOP practicing racism white supremacy OR they wipe all nonwhites out.

1. What would compel white people to replace the current system, if it works in their favour (i.e. why would they initiate a top-down revolution)?

2. Why would white people want to wipe all non-whites out, when it makes absolutely no structural sense in the current system?

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[MarkK]

I n a "he says she" says scenario with a suspected racist white supremacist how can a non white prove racism white supremacy was practiced against them? The is answer is he or she can't there is no mechanism for this.

If a white person is a practicing racism will they come out and tell you so? Is it possible a white person can say all the "right things" in your presence, and yet still practice racism white supremacy?


I suspect , Oprah (and most every non white who posts here) having lived 50 plus years on this planet we call Earth as a non white woman, has felt many times , that she was the victim of racism white supremacy. I suspect that non white people for the most part fail to connect the dots, fail to look at the big picture here.

I suspect it's easier to deny the enormity of problem or worse still fall into confusion over symptoms and/or reactions to the system of racism white supremacy. Many nonwhites refuse look things the way there really are for the MAJORITY of non whites on this planet,the conditions that they are forced to live in 24/7 are DEPLORABLE it's not correct, it's unjust.

French people, especially ones in tony botiques, are NEVER mean to Americans..... yeah right (crackie excepted of course).

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[rhodey]

1. What would compel white people to replace the current system, if it works in their favour (i.e. why would they initiate a top-down revolution)?

As I mentioned earlier. I don't have the answers, however if it was made more difficult to practice racism white supremacy, if it were made more expensive then perhaps the white supremacists would consider closing shop. I wouldn't call it a "top down revolution" more like business dissolution. But then you would have to replace that system with a system of justice. Justice :guaranteeing that no person is mistreated and guaranteeing the person that needs help the most gets the most help.

2. Why would white people want to wipe all non-whites out, when it makes absolutely no structural sense in the current system?

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Don't know. My guess is if non whites were no longer of use, no longer easily subject to racism white supremacy, no longer so easily deceived and confused, no longer so easily bullied, then perhaps out of retribution the white supremacist would take us out.

Remember the white supremacists have no problem wiping out large numbers of nonwhites who either don't suit their needs ( the so called American Indian,Aborigines,/or the so called JEWS who Germans considered NONWHITE) or just in the process of doing business - the tens of millions of so called Africans that died on their way over to the Americas...


Who actually knows what the racist white supremacist would do? But if it comes down to that point I believe non whites need to be ready to say to the racist white supremacists, "Either you stop practicing racism white supremacy NOW or you can just go ahead and do what you're going to do..." We need to be prepared for that.

[DeesKo]

Justice :guaranteeing that no person is mistreated and guaranteeing the person that needs help the most gets the most help.

Call me a pessimist, but this goal is impossible to achieve and the reason has absolutely nothing to do with skin color.

[the crackhouse]

.../...the so called JEWS who Germans considered NONWHITE)

"Who Nazis considered..."

Keep it accurate please. After your already whites = racist white supremacists, I will not allow you to say Germans = Nazis.

Thank you


Idance

[the crackhouse]

Call me a pessimist, but this goal is impossible to achieve and the reason has absolutely nothing to do with skin color.

Justice has often been unfair.

Idance

[rhodey]

French people, especially ones in tony botiques, are NEVER mean to Americans..... yeah right (crackie excepted of course).

So what does an "American" look like?

[DeesKo]

So what does an "American" look like?

as someone who has spent extensive time in at least 8 different countries on at least 3 different continents, trust me when I say Americans stick out like a sore thumb.

that also has nothing to do with skin color.

[SuzanneT]

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[DeesKo]

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[ngeso]

1. What would compel white people to replace the current system, if it works in their favour (i.e. why would they initiate a top-down revolution)?

As I mentioned earlier. I don't have the answers, however if it was made more difficult to practice racism white supremacy, if it were made more expensive then perhaps the white supremacists would consider closing shop.

If I'm not mistaken, it would be the first instance in human history that those in power would relinquish that power to those they oppress without force. It would be totally irrational.

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[the crackhouse]

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Idance

[Nay Sayer]

Justice has often been unfair.

Then it's not Justice...

[ngeso]

2. Why would white people want to wipe all non-whites out, when it makes absolutely no structural sense in the current system?

Don't know. My guess is if non whites were no longer of use, no longer easily subject to racism white supremacy, no longer so easily deceived and confused, no longer so easily bullied, then perhaps out of retribution the white supremacist would take us out.

Remember the white supremacists have no problem wiping out large numbers of nonwhites who either don't suit their needs ( the so called American Indian,Aborigines,/or the so called JEWS who Germans considered NONWHITE) or just in the process of doing business - the tens of millions of so called Africans that died on their way over to the Americas...

Our world order is based on a viable human power hierachy. The thing about our system is that we absolutely need the poor and disempowered in order to attain and sustain power and riches. Otherwise what we covet, cherish and honour (mammon) becomes worthless.

It is true that Europeans wiped out the aboriginal people of America, Australia, etc. But that was because they were of no practical use. They could not be worked for personal gain. African people, on the other hand, have always brought with them a number of redeeming features, including an immense capacity to submit and suffer, and an unwillingness to engage abstract causes.

When you take a whip to an American native, he wilts like a flower and dies. An Asian bows to you first and then buys you out twenty years later without you knowing it. An African breaks out in song and proceeds to do all you tell him to do.



I say if you want to change the system, maybe you should stop bullshitting, take up arms, fight to the death, and then see who is left over. Do you have the stomach for that?

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[rhodey]

If I'm not mistaken, it would be the first instance in human history that those in power would relinquish that power to those they oppress without force. It would be totally irrational.

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Yet, you don't think mistreating people of the bases of color is "totally irrational"?

Do, you think because something hasn't happened before, that it cant happen? Then why attempt to do anything that hasn't been done before?

When a man was put on the moon for the first time was it
"totally irrational"?

When the first pyramid was built in Egypt was it
"totally irrational"?

When Martin Luther King first "had a dream" was it
"totally irrational" ?


When Haiti mounted the first and only sucessful mass slave revolt was it
"totally irrational" ?

I feel WE were put on this earth to produce Justice. Has it happened before? Nope . Is it totally irrational?

No, I suspect not.

[Nay Sayer]

When you take a whip to an American native, he wilts like a flower and dies. An Asian bows to you first and then buys you out twenty years later without you knowing it. An African breaks out in song and proceeds to do all you tell him to do.

Now you sound like an idiot....

[ngeso]

Now you sound like an idiot....

Not at all. I'm an African myself.

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[Nay Sayer]

Not at all. I'm an African myself.

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Doesn't matter.

You still sound like an idiot...

[rhodey]

Our world order

Ngeso please define world order.

is based on a viable human power hierachy. ]The thing about our system is that we absolutely need the poor and disempowered in order to attain and sustain power and riches. Otherwise what we covet, cherish and honour (mammon) becomes worthless.

And what do YOU cherish Ngeso?

It is true that Europeans wiped out the aboriginal people of America, Australia, etc. But that was because they were [I]of no practical use. They could not be worked for personal gain. African people, on the other hand, have always brought with them a number of redeeming features, including an immense capacity to submit and suffer, and an unwillingness to engage abstract causes.

When you take a whip to an American native, he wilts like a flower and dies. An Asian bows to you first and then buys you out twenty years later without you knowing it. An African breaks out in song and proceeds to do all you tell him to do.

Indeed they were of no use to the racist white supremacist and were therefore "disposable".

I say if you want to change the system, maybe you should stop bullshitting, take up arms, fight to the death, and then see who is left over. Do you have the stomach for that?

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If it comes down to dying so be it. However I don't believe in suicide- which is not the same as setting up an ultimatum scenario. I suspect that we nonwhites would get blown off the face of the Earth if we attempted to win through use of force.

[AMc]

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Now back to the program.

[Moksha]

Yet, you don't think mistreating people of the bases of color is "totally irrational"?

Do, you think because something hasn't happened before, that it cant happen? Then why attempt to do anything that hasn't been done before?

When a man was put on the moon for the first time was it
"totally irrational"?

When the first pyramid was built in Egypt was it
"totally irrational"?

When Martin Luther King first "had a dream" was it
"totally irrational" ?


When Haiti mounted the first and only sucessful mass slave revolt was it
"totally irrational" ?

I feel WE were put on this earth to produce Justice. Has it happened before? Nope . Is it totally irrational?

No, I suspect not.

Plagiarist.

Liar.

[rhodey]

Not at all. I'm an African myself.

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Ngeso do you identify with the racist white supremacists who oppress Africans?

[Armento]

this thread makes me think of this tetris game




and this

[Moksha]

Ngeso do you identify with the racist white supremacists who oppress Africans?

Plagiarist.

Liar.