"The History of White People": What it means to be white

[206REFUGEE]

So the PEOPLE that run the institution that creates the money have NOTHING to do with that money?! Or are you telling me that institutions and organizations run on their own?

Sorry got some more stupid questions because your superior logic encourages them....

Does Congress pass laws without the men and women that make up congress?

Does the Catholic Church ordain priests without their clergy?

Does The board of Education ...I figure I should stop the stupid questions,and let your cognitive skills kick in.....3...2...1. Get it?!





Well let me say 1st that this is DEFINITELY NOT a STUPID question...

Under a system of justice (guaranteeing that no one is mistreated and people who need the most help receive it) why would you have poverty stricken people? 3...2..1.....

[Nay Sayer]

Stunningly misinformed and juvenile.

Is that your best retort?

And you call me "juvenille"?

Intellectually, I shit all over you...

[Nay Sayer]

Well let me say 1st that this is DEFINITELY NOT a STUPID question...

Under a system of justice (guaranteeing that no one is mistreated and people who need the most help receive it) why would you have poverty stricken people? 3...2..1.....

Stop bullshitting and answer the question.

[the crackhouse]

Stop bullshitting and answer the question.

Just pick one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

You KNOW which one!

Idance

PS: unfortunatly, we can even say which oneS.

[ngeso]

What's the story behind this avatar?



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[the crackhouse]

Stop bullshitting and answer the question.

But also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_bias

Idance

[ngeso]

A bunch of defensive liberal white boys having pedantic arguments with a couple batshit-insane Afrocentrists.[...]

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[dj-chefron]

Ex-NBA star, lawyer accuse restaurant of discrimination
By Bill Rankin

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Former NBA all-star Joe Barry Carroll and Atlanta lawyer Joseph Shaw were both enjoying drinks and bar food at The Tavern at Phipps early one evening when they were repeatedly asked to give up their seats to two white women patrons.

The two African-American men, who had not finished eating, politely declined. They noticed the Tavern's employees did not ask any white men to move and also saw some empty seats at the bar. About 20 minutes later, an Atlanta Police officer summoned by Tavern management escorted Carroll and Shaw out of the Phipps Plaza restaurant.

The Aug. 11, 2006, incident is described in federal lawsuits filed by the two men who say they were humiliated by the episode and contend The Tavern violated civil rights public accommodation laws. After almost two years of pretrial litigation, a federal judge must now decide whether the cases should go to trial.

Gerry Weber, one of Carroll's lawyers, contends the plaintiffs have documented a racially discriminatory practice used by Tavern management, which thought the restaurant would be more attractive to white patrons if black customers were moved out of the way.

"This is kind of the modern-day equivalent of the '60s lunch counter," Weber said. He equated the restaurant's request for Carroll and Shaw to move to another area to "a ‘back of the bus' offer."


http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/ex-nba-star-law...

[Moksha]

Ex-NBA star, lawyer accuse restaurant of discrimination
By Bill Rankin

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Former NBA all-star Joe Barry Carroll and Atlanta lawyer Joseph Shaw were both enjoying drinks and bar food at The Tavern at Phipps early one evening when they were repeatedly asked to give up their seats to two white women patrons.

The two African-American men, who had not finished eating, politely declined. They noticed the Tavern's employees did not ask any white men to move and also saw some empty seats at the bar. About 20 minutes later, an Atlanta Police officer summoned by Tavern management escorted Carroll and Shaw out of the Phipps Plaza restaurant.

The Aug. 11, 2006, incident is described in federal lawsuits filed by the two men who say they were humiliated by the episode and contend The Tavern violated civil rights public accommodation laws. After almost two years of pretrial litigation, a federal judge must now decide whether the cases should go to trial.

Gerry Weber, one of Carroll's lawyers, contends the plaintiffs have documented a racially discriminatory practice used by Tavern management, which thought the restaurant would be more attractive to white patrons if black customers were moved out of the way.

"This is kind of the modern-day equivalent of the '60s lunch counter," Weber said. He equated the restaurant's request for Carroll and Shaw to move to another area to "a ‘back of the bus' offer."


http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/ex-nba-star-law...

I have to post the rest of this story... 'cause it's fuckin' crazy:

In court filings this month, the Tavern says the suits should be dismissed because the restaurant did nothing wrong.

In an interview, Simon Bloom III, outside general counsel for the Tavern's management company, strongly disputed the accusations.

"The plaintiffs’ allegations about racial discrimination are unfounded, unsubstantiated and specious," Bloom said. “I can unequivocally say that the Tavern operates a color-blind business. It does not take race, color or creed into account for any aspect of its operations.”

What led to the lawsuits, he said, was a color-blind practice "focused on hospitality, gentility and good manners.”

In a court motion, the Tavern said the restaurant strived to maintain a courteous and chivalrous atmosphere. "When the seats at the bar are full, it is the unwritten practice to ask male customers sitting at the bar who are not eating to give up their seats to female customers standing and waiting for a seat." The evidence shows that Carroll and Shaw "were asked to give up their seats solely because they are men, not because they are African-American."

Carroll, a former Purdue University star and top pick of the 1980 NBA draft, said if a jury awards him damages, he will donate the money to charity.

Now an investment adviser who has lived in the Atlanta area since the early 1990s, Carroll said he wants to stand in proxy "for others who look like me but do not have the money, ability or time to reach justice." As for the Tavern's practice, he said, "They know they cannot say ‘move along boy' out loud so they construct unwritten policy in a manner that will allow them to keep the restaurant more white."

Shaw declined comment.

In court filings, lawyers for Carroll and Shaw cite pretrial testimony from former Tavern employees who said the restaurant limited the number of African-American hostesses on peak nights, limited the number of African-American waitresses and bartenders, eliminated Hennessy Cognac and Heineken from the menu because it was popular with young black customers and delayed service to black patrons, especially in the bar area.

During the February 2003 NBA All Star game, Tavern management knew the restaurant would get a large influx of black patrons so it hung up two large "Welcome Rodeo Fans" banners and instructed its musicians to play country music, Chris Pappas, a former operating partner of the Tavern, testified. Even though a bull riding event was in town that week, this was done to deter black NBA fans from entering the restaurant, he said.

[206REFUGEE]

but we live in a 'post racial society'

[Moksha]

but we live in a 'post racial society'

Who said that?

[the crackhouse]

Who said that?

Rhodey did.

Idance

[rhodey]

but we live in a 'post racial society'

No, it's was a class issue and the white people were just ignorant. To say anything more would be racist.

[rhodey]

I have to post the rest of this story... 'cause it's fuckin' crazy:

In court filings this month, the Tavern says the suits should be dismissed because the restaurant did nothing wrong.

In an interview, Simon Bloom III, outside general counsel for the Tavern's management company, strongly disputed the accusations.

"The plaintiffs’ allegations about racial discrimination are unfounded, unsubstantiated and specious," Bloom said. “I can unequivocally say that the Tavern operates a color-blind business. It does not take race, color or creed into account for any aspect of its operations.”

What led to the lawsuits, he said, was a color-blind practice "focused on hospitality, gentility and good manners.”

In a court motion, the Tavern said the restaurant strived to maintain a courteous and chivalrous atmosphere. "When the seats at the bar are full, it is the unwritten practice to ask male customers sitting at the bar who are not eating to give up their seats to female customers standing and waiting for a seat." The evidence shows that Carroll and Shaw "were asked to give up their seats solely because they are men, not because they are African-American."

Carroll, a former Purdue University star and top pick of the 1980 NBA draft, said if a jury awards him damages, he will donate the money to charity.

Now an investment adviser who has lived in the Atlanta area since the early 1990s, Carroll said he wants to stand in proxy "for others who look like me but do not have the money, ability or time to reach justice." As for the Tavern's practice, he said, "They know they cannot say ‘move along boy' out loud so they construct unwritten policy in a manner that will allow them to keep the restaurant more white."

Shaw declined comment.

In court filings, lawyers for Carroll and Shaw cite pretrial testimony from former Tavern employees who said the restaurant limited the number of African-American hostesses on peak nights, limited the number of African-American waitresses and bartenders, eliminated Hennessy Cognac and Heineken from the menu because it was popular with young black customers and delayed service to black patrons, especially in the bar area.

During the February 2003 NBA All Star game, Tavern management knew the restaurant would get a large influx of black patrons so it hung up two large "Welcome Rodeo Fans" banners and instructed its musicians to play country music, Chris Pappas, a former operating partner of the Tavern, testified. Even though a bull riding event was in town that week, this was done to deter black NBA fans from entering the restaurant, he said.

Questions for the white people here.

Sorry if you find them offensive and I apologize if they embarrasses some of the nonwhites here:

Do you agree that part of "what it means to be white" entails not being subject to mistreatment like this?

Do you whites want nonwhites to give you the "benefit of the doubt" and not suspect that you could be racist white supremacist?

Finally, do you lock your doors at night?

[Nay Sayer]

Questions for the white people here.

Sorry if you find them offensive and I apologize if they embarrasses some of the nonwhites here:

Do you agree that part of "what it means to be white" entails not being subject to mistreatment like this?

Do you whites want nonwhites to give you the "benefit of the doubt" and not suspect that you could be racist white supremacist?

Finally, do you lock your doors at night?

Are you serious?

[Timmy Mc]

I just want to know how much drool does it take before the keyboard shorts out?

Wow that intellect is astounding

[ngeso]

Questions for the white people here.
[...]Do you whites want nonwhites to give you the "benefit of the doubt" and not suspect that you could be racist white supremacist?

Finally, do you lock your doors at night?

Now you want white folks to pander to your racist crap? C'mon man...

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[Timmy Mc]

Now you want white folks to pander to your racist crap? C'mon man...

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Wow Afromericans can be equal racists but not have the same comfort that is taken for granted. Is that cool now?

[SuzanneT]

Wow that intellect is astounding

This reads like a person whose shorted out a few keyboards himself.

[rhodey]

Wow Afromericans can be equal racists but not have the same comfort that is taken for granted. Is that cool now?

Well see if it makes white peole feel uncomfortable, you know this talk about what it means to be white must be racist.

I suspect Ngeso has taken it upon himself to defend white people.

When you take a whip to an American native, he wilts like a flower and dies. An Asian bows to you first and then buys you out twenty years later without you knowing it. An African breaks out in song and proceeds to do all you tell him to do.

Would the above be considered racist? If not why ain't you singing Ngeso?

[Sal Paradise]

Duh, it was some anti nature Wizards that created us in the bowels of some Cave in the north pole.

[dj-chefron]

Would Congressman John Boehner be treated like this?
Richmond police looking for Robert Scott knock on Congressman Scott's hotel door
In a case of mistaken identity that Richmond police are surely wishing didn't happen, a couple of officers hoping to track down someone named "Robert Scott" knocked on the hotel door of U.S. Rep. Robert C. "Bobby" Scott over the weekend.

The police asked for identification and left without incident. Here are the detail on Scott's run in with the Richmond police from The Hill in Washington.

Scott, who described himself as "dead asleep" at the time, awakened, opened the door and spoke with the officers.
They asked him if his name was Robert Scott and he replied yes. The officers informed him they had an outstanding arrest warrant for a "Robert Scott" and requested two forms of photo identification. Scott said he gave the officers his driver's license and his congressional voting card.

Though his voting card states, "Robert C Scott, U.S. House of Representatives, Member of Congress" on the front side along with his photo as well as the seal of the U.S. House of Representatives on the backside, the police were more interested in his driver's license to ascertain his date of birth.

Scott, who is the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee crime, terrorism and homeland security subcommittee, was questioned about where he lived. The conversation ended shortly thereafter, according to Scott.

Scott, who will turn 63 on April 30, did not suggest that the police acted improperly, but is perplexed as to how the police knew that a Robert Scott was at the hotel at that particular time. He is also wondering if the officers had a specific description of the suspect they were looking for.

"I'm just curious and interested to see what description they had..." Scott said. "I'm curious as to how they got to the hotel room and what information they got to find out where I was. Most hotels are secretive about information.

"I'd be interested to know if there was probable cause regarding a description. Were the police looking for a 62-year-old black man who is 5'8?”

Scott was apparently on his way back from a fundraiser for Tom Perriello and now he's has some interesting questions for the Richmond PD, who apparently can comb through hotel listings in the metro area.

Richmond Police Information Officer Gene Lepley said, "We do thousands of these a year and we have thousands on file. This one just happened to mention a Robert Scott."

However, Lepley told Fox News that there is a city ordinance that permits police officers to review the names of hotel guests. The local law allows the police to compare the names to those with outstanding warrants.

http://hrblogs.typepad.com/the_shad_plank/2010/...

[Timmy Mc]

This reads like a person whose shorted out a few keyboards himself.

That's cute did the mirror tell you that.

[SuzanneT]

That's cute did the mirror tell you that.

In my world mirrors don't talk.

[Timmy Mc]

In my world mirrors don't talk.

Wow and I thought you would have gotten that one. Oh well.