Thread: "The History of White People": What it means to be white

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy Mc View Post
    Wow and I thought you would have gotten that one. Oh well.
    So as not to throw this thread off track nor to upset rhodey and 206REFUGEE:

    Timmy MC, are you white?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzanneT View Post
    So as not to throw this thread off track nor to upset rhodey and 206REFUGEE:

    Timmy MC, are you white?
    That's pretty good I'll laugh along with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzanneT View Post
    This reads like a person whose shorted out a few keyboards himself.
    Indeed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhodey View Post
    Well see if it makes white peole feel uncomfortable, you know this talk about what it means to be white must be racist.

    I suspect Ngeso has taken it upon himself to defend white people.




    Would the above be considered racist? If not why ain't you singing Ngeso?
    You have a suspect, you have a motive, now it's time for justice.

    Tak'em down Rebecca!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nay Sayer View Post
    Indeed...
    Huh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy Mc View Post
    Huh
    Does the phrase "a can short of a six-pack" mean anything to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy Mc View Post
    Huh
    You mispelled "Duh."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nay Sayer View Post
    Does the phrase "a can short of a six-pack" mean anything to you?
    yes.. it's reese rating my mix

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nay Sayer View Post
    Does the phrase "a can short of a six-pack" mean anything to you?
    Does the word officious mean anything to you and again Huh. No way am I non- plused

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    Quote Originally Posted by the crackhouse View Post
    You mispelled "Duh."

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    I didn't realize I was posting anything for you I would have posted dumb. Oh and by the way hail Hitler

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhodey View Post
    I believe there are some white people who would not be able to practice racism white supremacy. I would include white babies and white coma patients in this group
    CORRECTION I'd only leave white coma patients in that group




    See Baby Discriminate
    Kids as young as 6 months judge others based on skin color. What's a parent to do?

    By Po Bronson and Ashley Merryman | NEWSWEEK
    Published Sep 5, 2009
    From the magazine issue dated Sep 14, 2009

    At the Children's Research Lab at the University of Texas, a database is kept on thousands of families in the Austin area who have volunteered to be available for scholarly research. In 2006 Birgitte Vittrup recruited from the database about a hundred families, all of whom were Caucasian with a child 5 to 7 years old.



    The goal of Vittrup's study was to learn if typical children's videos with multicultural storylines have any beneficial effect on children's racial attitudes. Her first step was to give the children a Racial Attitude Measure, which asked such questions as:

    How many White people are nice?
    (Almost all) (A lot) (Some) (Not many) (None)

    How many Black people are nice?
    (Almost all) (A lot) (Some) (Not many) (None)

    During the test, the descriptive adjective "nice" was replaced with more than 20 other adjectives, like "dishonest," "pretty," "curious," and "snobby."

    Vittrup sent a third of the families home with multiculturally themed videos for a week, such as an episode of Sesame Street in which characters visit an African-American family's home, and an episode of Little Bill, where the entire neighborhood comes together to clean the local park.

    In truth, Vittrup didn't expect that children's racial attitudes would change very much just from watching these videos. Prior research had shown that multicultural curricula in schools have far less impact than we intend them to—largely because the implicit message "We're all friends" is too vague for young children to understand that it refers to skin color.

    Yet Vittrup figured explicit conversations with parents could change that. So a second group of families got the videos, and Vittrup told these parents to use them as the jumping-off point for a discussion about interracial friendship. She provided a checklist of points to make, echoing the shows' themes. "I really believed it was going to work," Vittrup recalls.

    The last third were also given the checklist of topics, but no videos. These parents were to discuss racial equality on their own, every night for five nights.

    At this point, something interesting happened. Five families in the last group abruptly quit the study. Two directly told Vittrup, "We don't want to have these conversations with our child. We don't want to point out skin color."

    Vittrup was taken aback—these families volunteered knowing full well it was a study of children's racial attitudes. Yet once they were aware that the study required talking openly about race, they started dropping out.

    t was no surprise that in a liberal city like Austin, every parent was a welcoming multiculturalist, embracing diversity. But according to Vittrup's entry surveys, hardly any of these white parents had ever talked to their children directly about race. They might have asserted vague principles—like "Everybody's equal" or "God made all of us" or "Under the skin, we're all the same"—but they'd almost never called attention to racial differences.

    They wanted their children to grow up colorblind. But Vittrup's first test of the kids revealed they weren't colorblind at all. Asked how many white people are mean, these children commonly answered, "Almost none." Asked how many blacks are mean, many answered, "Some," or "A lot." Even kids who attended diverse schools answered the questions this way.

    More disturbing, Vittrup also asked all the kids a very blunt question: "Do your parents like black people?" Fourteen percent said outright, "No, my parents don't like black people"; 38 percent of the kids answered, "I don't know." In this supposed race-free vacuum being created by parents, kids were left to improvise their own conclusions—many of which would be abhorrent to their parents.

    Vittrup hoped the families she'd instructed to talk about race would follow through. After watching the videos, the families returned to the Children's Research Lab for retesting. To Vittrup's complete surprise, the three groups of children were statistically the same—none, as a group, had budged very much in their racial attitudes. At first glance, the study was a failure.

    Combing through the parents' study diaries, Vittrup realized why. Diary after diary revealed that the parents barely mentioned the checklist items. Many just couldn't talk about race, and they quickly reverted to the vague "Everybody's equal" phrasing.

    Of all those Vittrup told to talk openly about interracial friendship, only six families managed to actually do so. And, for all six, their children dramatically improved their racial attitudes in a single week. Talking about race was clearly key. Reflecting later about the study, Vittrup said, "A lot of parents came to me afterwards and admitted they just didn't know what to say to their kids, and they didn't want the wrong thing coming out of the mouth of their kids."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy Mc View Post
    Does the word officious mean anything to you and again Huh. No way am I non- plused
    I see you've cleaned the drool from your keyboard.

    Good work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nay Sayer View Post
    I see you've cleaned the drool from your keyboard.

    Good work...
    New keyboard, Rekanize!
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    "Change happens when the pain of holding on becomes greater than the fear of letting go." — Spencer Johnson

    "Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music.”– Angela Monet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy Mc View Post
    non- plused
    One word (no hyphen) with two esses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy Mc View Post
    I didn't realize I was posting anything for you I would have posted dumb. Oh and by the way hail Hitler
    Hail to your culture!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzanneT View Post
    New keyboard, Rekanize!



    Dude should run out and buy a pallette load to help keep his new keyboard nice and dry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nay Sayer View Post
    I see you've cleaned the drool from your keyboard.

    Good work...
    again, Huh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy Mc View Post
    again, Huh
    Stop using the bandwith for that kind of shit.
    There are better ways to reach the gold member status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the crackhouse View Post
    Hail to your culture!

    Idance
    That was for you supremacist I don't live in Belgium

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy Mc View Post
    That was for you supremacist I don't live in Belgium
    Nor do you live in History books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the crackhouse View Post
    Stop using the bandwith for that kind of shit.
    There are better ways to reach the gold member status.

    Idance
    You found me out thats what I want gold member status on this board

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moksha View Post
    One word (no hyphen) with two esses.
    Thanks I missed that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy Mc View Post
    You found me out thats what I want gold member status on this board
    happy 100, noob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy Mc View Post
    You found me out thats what I want gold member status on this board
    Still wasting bandwith...

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