"The History of White People": What it means to be white

[TAD]

I can tell you that Prince Charles would wield alot more power, than say, your local factory worker, colour not making a damn differerence.

oh it still does make a huge difference if you're applying for a job, looking for an apt, buying a home, applying for a loan. even walking down the street or shopping in a dept store. it makes NO difference if you're a black factory worker or a black power broker.

please stop trying to defend your whiteness. this goes to all the white folks who jump on here to defend their racial purity everytime your feelings get hurt. there's fantasy and reality.

[Martin Red]

it makes NO difference if you're a black factory worker or a black power broker.

go fuck yourself, racist idiot.

[TAD]

go fuck yourself, racist idiot.

stop projecting

[Martin Red]

stop projecting

Take is as fact, i've got your quote you dim wit, want to continue with your racist ramblings ?

it makes NO difference if you're a black factory worker or a black power broker.

[TAD]

Take is as fact, i've got your quote you dim wit, want to continue with your racist ramblings ?

what do YOU think i meant by that statment genius?

[ngeso]

please stop trying to defend your whiteness. this goes to all the white folks who jump on here to defend their racial purity everytime your feelings get hurt. there's fantasy and reality.

Actually, why not? In lieu of fundamentally, stupidly racist drivel that idiots like rhodey or 206refugee are propagating, why shouldn't someone white defend him or herself?

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[Martin Red]

what do YOU think i meant by that statment genius?

Which one, hurry up I aint got allday. Also, do you think I have a problem understanding you, if so, try to write in a less cryptic way for others to understand. Yes I do understand, it's small minded, whatever fucking colour you are talking about.

P.S: 2010 called.

[TAD]

Actually, why not? In lieu of fundamentally, stupidly racist drivel that idiots like rhodey or 206refugee are propagating, why shouldn't someone white defend him or herself?

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defend against what? what & who is threathened?

and are you saying it's ALL bullshit?

[TAD]

Which one, hurry up I aint got allday. Also, do you think I have a problem understanding you, if so, try to write in a less cryptic way for others to understand. Yes I do understand, it's small minded, whatever fucking colour you are talking about.

P.S: 2010 called.

umm the one you quoted?

"it makes NO difference if you're a black factory worker or a black power broker."

it's very simple marty. economically disenfranchised black & white folks do not walk the same paths, live in the same neighbourhoods, or are afforded the same opportunities. well to do black folks are also targeted as potential criminals for dwb, wwb, lwb, swb and for just being black.

so your view of rich vs poor no matter the color is a very skewed and naive outlook.

[AMc]

oh it still does make a huge difference if you're applying for a job, looking for an apt, buying a home, applying for a loan. even walking down the street or shopping in a dept store. it makes NO difference if you're a black factory worker or a black power broker.

please stop trying to defend your whiteness. this goes to all the white folks who jump on here to defend their racial purity everytime your feelings get hurt. there's fantasy and reality.

Obviously you don't know "what it means to be white".

[ngeso]

defend against what? what & who is threathened?

and are you saying it's ALL bullshit?

If my standards are exacting, the yes, everything these fellows say is rubbish.

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[Martin Red]

umm the one you quoted?

"it makes NO difference if you're a black factory worker or a black power broker.".

Two words, are you ready.....

Jewish holocaust

or here's another two, Indian Partition. One more ? , Darfur

it's very simple marty. economically disenfranchised black & white folks do not walk the same paths, live in the same neighbourhoods, or are afforded the same opportunities.

Simplictic. American view of the big wide world, ....again.

so your view of rich vs poor no matter the color is a very skewed and naive outlook.

I think you may find, if you travel, that's it's your view that's skewed, and it's an American outlook you carry.
Well done Tad

[House]

Simplictic. American view of the big wide







I think you may find, if you travel, that's it's your view that's skewed, and it's an American outlook you carry.
Well done Tad

I thought TAD was Canadian

[rhodey]

oh it still does make a huge difference if you're applying for a job, looking for an apt, buying a home, applying for a loan. even walking down the street or shopping in a dept store. it makes NO difference if you're a black factory worker or a black power broker.

please stop trying to defend your whiteness. this goes to all the white folks who jump on here to defend their racial purity everytime your feelings get hurt. there's fantasy and reality.

Well said TAD, I agree.

[Nay Sayer]

please stop trying to defend your whiteness. this goes to all the white folks who jump on here to defend their racial purity everytime your feelings get hurt. there's fantasy and reality.

There is no such thing as "racial purity"...

[Martin Red]

Well said TAD, I agree.

he gone mate, trying to work out how to back out of the fact he's comments are daft and quite hurtful

Also, a little like you, he's unable to make a solid debate.

[House]

Of course, the possibility that TAD may just be at work isn't a consideration

[rhodey]

Two words, are you ready.....

Jewish holocaust

or here's another two, Indian Partition. One more ? , Darfur

Martin do you believe the Nazi Germans considered the Jews White?

Martin do you believe the white "explorers" who exterminated the "Indians" considered them to be white?

MArtin Red when Nonwhites kill other nonwhites in Darfur, do you think that weakens or strengthens Racism White Supremacy?

I think you may find, if you travel, that's it's your view that's skewed, and it's an American outlook you carry.
Well done Tad

Hmm from what part of the world do you hail Martin?

Martin in your travels have you come across this book?



From the author of Good Muslim, Bad Muslim comes an important book, unlike any other, that looks at the crisis in Darfur within the context of the history of Sudan
and examines the world’s response to that crisis.

In Saviors and Survivors, Mahmood Mamdani explains how the conflict in Darfur began as a civil war (1987—89) between nomadic and peasant tribes over fertile land in the south, triggered by a severe drought that had expanded the Sahara Desert by more than sixty miles in forty years; how British colonial officials had artificially tribalized Darfur, dividing its population into “native” and “settler” tribes and creating homelands for the former at the expense of the latter; how the war intensified in the 1990s when the Sudanese government tried unsuccessfully to address the problem by creating homelands for tribes without any. The involvement of opposition parties gave rise in 2003 to two rebel movements, leading to a brutal insurgency and a horrific counterinsurgency–but not to genocide, as the West has declared.

Mamdani also explains how the Cold War exacerbated the twenty-year civil war in neighboring Chad, creating a confrontation between Libya’s Muammar al-Qaddafi (with Soviet support) and the Reagan administration (allied with France and Israel) that spilled over into Darfur and militarized the fighting. By 2003, the war involved national, regional, and global forces, including the powerful Western lobby, who now saw it as part of the War on Terror and called for a military invasion dressed up as “humanitarian intervention.”

Incisive and authoritative, Saviors and Survivors will radically alter our understanding of the crisis in Darfur.

[Martin Red]

Of course, the possibility that TAD may just be at work isn't a consideration

Well, since you are talking for him now, talking for DaveR getting boring now is it

[Nay Sayer]

Martin do you believe the Germans considered the Jews White?

You are WAY off here.

The Nazis didn't consider European Jews to be Aryans, as was the case with many other Europeans.

There is a differecne between being considered "White" and "Aryan".

Get your facts in order. Euroepean Jews are as White as any other group of Europeans...

[House]

Well, since you are talking for him now, talking for DaveR getting boring now is it

Actually, I haven't advanced his argument. I have only pointed out the holes in your own

It's the middle of a workday and I believe TAD lives in Montreal

[rhodey]

he gone mate, trying to work out how to back out of the fact he's comments are daft and quite hurtful

Well Martin perhaps you could ask the other nonwhites here. Ask your "friends" if they experience racism white supremacy trying to do the things that I suspect many whites can do with no issues. The answer you receive might be "hurtful".....

Also, a little like you, he's unable to make a solid debate.

So what is your stance? Prince Charles is more powerful than a white factory worker?

[rhodey]

You are WAY off here.

The Nazis didn't consider European Jews to be Aryans, as was the case with many other Europeans.

Way off what? Where did I say that Nay Sayer? Please let Martin answer the question that I asked HIM....

Get your facts in order. Euroepean Jews are as White as any other group of Europeans...

Again Nay sayer kindly reread my post. I asked Martin if the Nazi's considered
the JEWS to be white.

In the system of racism white supremacy, I suspect that the white people with the most power determine who is white at any given time.

So basically the Irish and other "Europeans" (who may have been genetically very close to an Englishman) were not considered white until the most powerful white people(white supremacist) allowed them into the club.

The Nazi's where not checking for gene structure, I suspect they determined the Jews to be NON WHITE, and that had the power to enforce that belief, to act on that belief.

Nay Sayer I m not talking about genes and DNA I'm, talking about race as a social construct.

Nay Sayer please allow Martin to answer the original question in his own words, I want to know what he thinks.


Thanks.

[Martin Red]

Rhodey, Why do I get the questions when it’s other people spouting the racism, OK, like that is it.

Martin do you believe the Germans considered the Jews White? .

Did the English consider Irish to be white ?

MArtin Red when Nonwhites kill other nonwhites in Darfur, do you think that weakens or strengthens Racism White Supremacy?

What’s that got to do with racism on DHP ?

Hmm from what part of the world do you hail Martin?

England, what about you, America I take it.

[Martin Red]

Well Martin perhaps the other nonwhites here. Your "friends" if they experience racism white supremacy trying to do the things that I suspect many whites can do with no issues.

So, say a black person wants to become president of the United States of America ?