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    Decided not to go to law school......

    After thinking on it and doing a ton of research including speaking to some brothers that are practicing law, I have decided to do a Master's Degree in information technology instead......

    With the research I have conducted, I have concluded that IT is the way to go, there is just so many new and exciting avenues opening up for IT professionals it's just crazy.....

    My department is taking to the IT concept big time and I think from a professional standpoint, this is my best option relative to netting immediate gains.....

    I start classes soon and I'm looking forward to it, I'll be asking yall IT peeps questions so don't laugh at my ass until you've helped me out.............

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    Nice one Chuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveR View Post
    Nice one Chuck
    why thank you sir.......

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    congrats and welcome to nerdville.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    congrats and welcome to nerdville.
    thank you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    congrats and welcome to nerdville.
    Yeah what he said Chuck. I to am in school working on my degree in network administration with a cisco option.
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    your timing couldn't be better because the IT field is expected to make a strong comeback this year.

    http://www.cio.com/article/661865/Wa...t_organization

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    your timing couldn't be better because the IT field is expected to make a strong comeback this year.

    http://www.cio.com/article/661865/Wa...t_organization
    great read, thx for the info....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dj kelvin View Post
    Yeah what he said Chuck. I to am in school working on my degree in network administration with a cisco option.
    Thanks man, I have to admit that I was really torn between the two, the thought of becoming an attorney has always appealed to me, but at this point in my life, I have to do what makes sense, and an IT degree makes the most sense so that's the way I'm gonna go.......

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    Good luck guy, I chose to study to be a chartered accountant because of the demad for Black CA's, even though Black people make up around 90% of the population, Black CA's make up around 5% of all the CA'S? So now I'm making the combined salary of my dad and two sisters
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    Young cat I know went from making $10 an hour working at Jiffy Lube a few years back to $95k a year now after he got his degree in network adminstration, certified in Cisco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE SCHOLAR View Post
    even though Black people make up around 90% of the population
    It's that chocolatey out there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj kelvin View Post
    Yeah what he said Chuck. I to am in school working on my degree in network administration with a cisco option.
    How much will you make when you finish, and you were to talk to the black youths in neighborhood how would describe to them step by step for them to got to those position

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete_ is_ niccce View Post
    How much will you make when you finish, and you were to talk to the black youths in neighborhood how would describe to them step by step for them to got to those position
    Not sure how much I will make when I am done. One of the students ahead of me just came out and got a job on a military base making 57k to start. So I am hopeful that I too can start in that range. What I would tell the youth of today now that I am back in school and see them everyday is pretty much what I have been telling my 2 oldest children and that is get your education first get a stable career going for yourself then worry about all the pleasures life has to offer. Its no fun trying to do all the nicer things in life with no nicer things in life kinda money to do it. I have also instilled in them that you have to learn how to take care of yourself so that you don't have to be dependent of folks to take care of you.
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    Kick ass brother!

    This is an excellent decision as well. I'm on the NACElink job boards and there are many openings for cats with advanced degrees in the area of IT

    I have faith that you will do this

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Buddy Love Show View Post
    Kick ass brother!

    This is an excellent decision as well. I'm on the NACElink job boards and there are many openings for cats with advanced degrees in the area of IT

    I have faith that you will do this

    Much Respect!
    thank you sir, Imma go through Capella University which is the only online school that has been accredited and adopted by the Department of Homeland Security, cats are getting internships and jobs with them right out of school with that degree, Homeland Security has given Capella some of the curriculum for their degree programs and has backed them up certifying them with the accreditation, I'm excited and looking forward to the challenge.............

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    This is great Chuck!!! Good 4 u!!! Just curious, what did you find to change your mind about law school?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VEESTER View Post
    This is great Chuck!!! Good 4 u!!! Just curious, what did you find to change your mind about law school?
    thanks Vee, means a lot bro, what I found was a bunch of under paid over worked lawyers in a saturated field, attorneys are everywhere and only those fortunate enough to get picked up by a large firm or those who choose to or become successful in a private practice really take full advantage of their JD.........

    I had initially thought on leaving the Sheriff's Office, but the Sheriff has made some moves that have cleared my pathway to firming up a solid career and giving me a 6 figure salary in the process if I continue to do what I'm doing..........

    Not that it's all about the money, but a lawyer fresh out of law school working in the public defender's office in Cook County is under 50 grand a year, in the State's Attorney's office he/she is under 60........

    No disrespect to those who are working in those capacities, but Master's level IT professionals are coming out of school with the proper certifications making much more than that, bottom line too many lawyers ='s less demand for them thus the market is saturated............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck P View Post
    thanks Vee, means a lot bro, what I found was a bunch of under paid over worked lawyers in a saturated field, attorneys are everywhere and only those fortunate enough to get picked up by a large firm or those who choose to or become successful in a private practice really take full advantage of their JD.........

    I had initially thought on leaving the Sheriff's Office, but the Sheriff has made some moves that have cleared my pathway to firming up a solid career and giving me a 6 figure salary in the process if I continue to do what I'm doing..........

    Not that it's all about the money, but a lawyer fresh out of law school working in the public defender's office in Cook County is under 50 grand a year, in the State's Attorney's office he/she is under 60........

    No disrespect to those who are working in those capacities, but Master's level IT professionals are coming out of school with the proper certifications making much more than that, bottom line too many lawyers ='s less demand for them thus the market is saturated............
    you make your own choices, but, using the above makes no sense at all, botton line, you don't get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhd View Post
    you make your own choices, but, using the above makes no sense at all, botton line, you don't get it
    Thanks for chiming in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAC View Post
    Thanks for chiming in.
    well, its not for the weak, or the uninformed, for that matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhd View Post
    you make your own choices, but, using the above makes no sense at all, botton line, you don't get it
    I guess I don't get it either. He did his due diligence and made a sound decision IMO. He can always go back later.

    I don't disagree that the cream rises to the top, but I see the cream getting rejected and laid off regularly at my shop. Case in point - today I gave a mover and shaker at my firm a resume that I thought was very impressive: Joint JD/MBA, VA Supreme Court clerkship with recommendations from sitting justices, multiple awards for moot court at the state and national level, extensive prior work experience, etc. It was rejected inside of 10 seconds. And yes, I know there are other opportunities out there, but there's no question it's become increasingly difficult in recent years to secure employment paying a decent salary right out of law school (i.e. at least enough to pay law school loans and live comfortably). JMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    I guess I don't get it either. He did his due diligence and made a sound decision IMO. He can always go back later.

    I don't disagree that the cream rises to the top, but I see the cream getting rejected and laid off regularly at my shop. Case in point - today I gave a mover and shaker at my firm a resume that I thought was very impressive: Joint JD/MBA, VA Supreme Court clerkship with recommendations from sitting justices, multiple awards for moot court at the state and national level, extensive prior work experience, etc. It was rejected inside of 10 seconds. And yes, I know there are other opportunities out there, but there's no question it's become increasingly difficult in recent years to secure employment paying a decent salary right out of law school (i.e. at least enough to pay law school loans and live comfortably). JMO.
    I hear you Doug, however it seems the law world needs to sip a cup of reality. It's apparent the old business model of law firms have to change in this new economic environment. If the candidate you presented had some clients, and positioned himself as a potential "rainmaker" then he probably would have been looked at differently. The days of hiring new law school grads based of graduation merits are over. This person you proposed quite frankly probably should look at alternative employment opportunities. The JD/MBA combo speaks to starting a business, versus trying to work at a firm...JMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    I guess I don't get it either. He did his due diligence and made a sound decision IMO. He can always go back later.

    I don't disagree that the cream rises to the top, but I see the cream getting rejected and laid off regularly at my shop. Case in point - today I gave a mover and shaker at my firm a resume that I thought was very impressive: Joint JD/MBA, VA Supreme Court clerkship with recommendations from sitting justices, multiple awards for moot court at the state and national level, extensive prior work experience, etc. It was rejected inside of 10 seconds. And yes, I know there are other opportunities out there, but there's no question it's become increasingly difficult in recent years to secure employment paying a decent salary right out of law school (i.e. at least enough to pay law school loans and live comfortably). JMO.
    not sure how you can say its a sound decision, for me, there are not enough facts to draw such a conclusion, as for your example, i've seen us supreme court clerks rejected, firm life is just a small sliver of employment options and far from being the best option for most, as for due diligence, maybe that means something different to different people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck P View Post
    After thinking on it and doing a ton of research including speaking to some brothers that are practicing law, I have decided to do a Master's Degree in information technology instead......

    With the research I have conducted, I have concluded that IT is the way to go, there is just so many new and exciting avenues opening up for IT professionals it's just crazy.....

    My department is taking to the IT concept big time and I think from a professional standpoint, this is my best option relative to netting immediate gains.....

    I start classes soon and I'm looking forward to it, I'll be asking yall IT peeps questions so don't laugh at my ass until you've helped me out.............


    You made the right decision. Good luck!!!
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