why do some men like women that many would consider a bitch?

[RX]

and what kind of men like these kind of women?

i'm not talking about actually bitches, but those women that people are sometimes fearful of for one reason or another, or that has lots of charisma, power, aggressiveness with a big attitude to boot.

generalizations and stereotypes are welcome. but, if you must resort to these tools, please back them up. thanks!

[dj aakmael]

I don't. Sick of beeches...

[Daniel, Grand Duke of Stony Island]

and what kind of men like these kind of women?

The kind of men who prefer being chosen over choosing.

"You're my man, now."

"Ok."

Then d00d just lies in wait until her game slips. Then he softly claims the upper hand over her...like he did his mama and his sisters...

C'man Rickey - you know 'em. Soft game, slow play types. If your game is soft, play slow and wait it out.

It's a lot of eligible cats out here with no hood sense when it comes to dames - cats raised to love their mama waaaay too much. It's easier for them to use themselves as bait, fall for the okey-doke from a hard woman, then wait it out.

Hell, that's the Hollywood House Husband Hustle.

[RX]

they don't believe me, danny. i wanted to ask you guys for some intelligent answers so i can help out. let me ask you this - if your daughter was one of these women, what kind of man would you consider a match for her? this is great...

[Devant]

and what kind of men like these kind of women?

i'm not talking about actually bitches, but those women that people are sometimes fearful of for one reason or another, or that has lots of charisma, power, aggressiveness with a big attitude to boot.

generalizations and stereotypes are welcome. but, if you must resort to these tools, please back them up. thanks!

So, you're not asking why men like bitches, you're asking why men like dominant females.

Where's KBig to sound the misogyny alarm?

[Daniel, Grand Duke of Stony Island]

they don't believe me, danny. i wanted to ask you guys for some intelligent answers so i can help out. let me ask you this - if your daughter was one of these women, what kind of man would you consider a match for her? this is great...

A man who isn't gonna abide her shit IN THE SLIGHTEST.

My daughters aren't that type, but they're strong, and my son in law will go heads up with my daughter and my daughter is unshakable. In that exchange of contrast, they get all their shit worked out. I love seeing it - absolutely love it - because I know they chose right for each other. They really work at it, and work things out between themselves. A lot of mutual respect happening there.

These tough, bitchy women you describe, they don't go for mutual choices - mutual anything. They are the one choosing and the man gets by/ahead/over by allowing her all the choices.

Then she stops lookin' so fly...but he's still marketable because he doesn't have a lot of miles on him...then the tabloids have something to report...

Keep in mind that these women are successful in other areas of their lives because of these same traits. Depending upon the locale and the field, it's gotta be hard for a lady to turn off the warrior in her long enough to establish something more grounded in reason with her mate.

Women have a tough row to hoe.

[RX]

hilariously poignant!!!! i'm gonna send your post to a few cats that need to see this. thanks SO much!

[Jamie 3:26]

The kind of men who prefer being chosen over choosing.

"You're my man, now."

"Ok."

Then d00d just lies in wait until her game slips. Then he softly claims the upper hand over her...like he did his mama and his sisters...

C'man Rickey - you know 'em. Soft game, slow play types. If your game is soft, play slow and wait it out.

It's a lot of eligible cats out here with no hood sense when it comes to dames - cats raised to love their mama waaaay too much. It's easier for them to use themselves as bait, fall for the okey-doke from a hard woman, then wait it out.

Hell, that's the Hollywood House Husband Hustle.

Truth.....and the cold,hard truth!!!!

[panklady]

RX, you said:

"I'm not talking about actually bitches, but those women that people are sometimes fearful of for one reason or another, or that has lots of charisma, power, aggressiveness with a big attitude to boot."

Okay, I have a really dear friend who fits this description to a 't'. In short terms, she's a real piece of work when it comes to men. Unshakeable/Non-chalant, high post...and she knows it too. We can see it from gitty-up. Men flock to her like bees to pollen. It oozes off of her...along with the fact that she's gorgeous. I've seen the best of men (great careers, clocking dollars, good characters/credit etc) step to her with every intention to 'book' her...only to fall short. The more game they step to her with the more she turns the heat up on them. Her current beau stepped to her all strong...only to be squashed in front of some of her girls...and he & his pride came limping back for a second go 'round. That time he cut the 'bs' and now they're cozy. His points came from the rebound off of a failed jump shot ..'cause she took all of his cool points. Oh yeah, she's not quiet about it either.

The 'b*ch curtain' that some women have is like a M&M shell...to protect the insides (ie their heart). When you get to know them/us we're pretty cool.

[House]

Danny

As a long time fan of your writing, I must say that your material is stronger than ever. Consistently so.

[mhd]

Danny

As a long time fan of your writing, I must say that your material is stronger than ever. Consistently so.

co-sign

[Daniel, Grand Duke of Stony Island]

Thanks y'all.

[House]

Thanks y'all.

Dude

You are on some Franklin Ajaye/Steve Martin type shit. For Real.

Jmo

[dj kelvin]

Dude

You are on some Franklin Ajaye/Steve Martin type shit. For Real.

Jmo

He does know how to get his point across.......

[Daniel, Grand Duke of Stony Island]

Dude

You are on some Franklin Ajaye/Steve Martin type shit. For Real.

Jmo

He does know how to get his point across.......

Wow...I love that someone other than me remembers Franklin Ajaye. I studied him when I was coming up. When we would do Letterman and he wasn't going for laughs, but nods. He did, like, 5m on brothers' pubic hair being nappy...getting a pubic trim from the barber shop...his theme was revealing to white folks what they didn't know about brothas and how it held him back in society. Letterman was aghast, just laughing through his nose...raucous...that was back in high school...that was the comedian I wanted to be.

My daughter wants me to get back out there, but I'm not sure I'm feeling charm for it. I have that sit down and listen stand-up. I'm not fat, sloppy or funny lookin', so cats gotta shut up and pay attention. Does anyone do that anymore?

[BHouse]

Rickey you could have called me...

[Daniel, Grand Duke of Stony Island]

Rickey you could have called me...

She just wanted a quick answer. Callin' you is like callin' NASA or Fermilab or some shit. That's some institutional knowledge you got.

[SuzanneT]

Wow...I love that someone other than me remembers Franklin Ajaye. I studied him when I was coming up. When we would do Letterman and he wasn't going for laughs, but nods. He did, like, 5m on brothers' pubic hair being nappy...getting a pubic trim from the barber shop...his theme was revealing to white folks what they didn't know about brothas and how it held him back in society. Letterman was aghast, just laughing through his nose...raucous...that was back in high school...that was the comedian I wanted to be.

My daughter wants me to get back out there, but I'm not sure I'm feeling charm for it. I have that sit down and listen stand-up. I'm not fat, sloppy or funny lookin', so cats gotta shut up and pay attention. Does anyone do that anymore?

I agree about the Frank Ajaye comparison.
I'd say you're more one-man-off-broadway-show than what passes for stand up today.

[dj kelvin]

I agree about the Frank Ajaye comparison.
I'd say you're more one-man-off-broadway-show than what passes for stand up today.

[dj kelvin]

Wow...I love that someone other than me remembers Franklin Ajaye. I studied him when I was coming up. When we would do Letterman and he wasn't going for laughs, but nods. He did, like, 5m on brothers' pubic hair being nappy...getting a pubic trim from the barber shop...his theme was revealing to white folks what they didn't know about brothas and how it held him back in society. Letterman was aghast, just laughing through his nose...raucous...that was back in high school...that was the comedian I wanted to be.

My daughter wants me to get back out there, but I'm not sure I'm feeling charm for it. I have that sit down and listen stand-up. I'm not fat, sloppy or funny lookin', so cats gotta shut up and pay attention. Does anyone do that anymore?

Damn Danny you made me go see if I could find the piece you are speaking about. Its in this skit he did if I am not mistaken.

[Daniel, Grand Duke of Stony Island]

Damn Danny you made me go see if I could find the piece you are speaking about. Its in this skit he did if I am not mistaken.

I'm sure he kept it in his repitoire but it was an ad lib from early 80s Letterman.

Still, good post. Love Franklin Ajaye.

[RX]

She just wanted a quick answer. Callin' you is like callin' NASA or Fermilab or some shit. That's some institutional knowledge you got.

plus, he's just trying to start stuff.

[LadyA. Acacia]

who you callin a bitch?
u-n-i-t-y dats a unity.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HOwz_HdoA0

[DeesKo]

and what kind of men like these kind of women?

i'm not talking about actually bitches, but those women that people are sometimes fearful of for one reason or another, or that has lots of charisma, power, aggressiveness with a big attitude to boot.

generalizations and stereotypes are welcome. but, if you must resort to these tools, please back them up. thanks!

While I agree with Danny's synopsis when it comes to relationships with overbearing control freaks and/or real bitches (which is usually the same thing because the bitch part is simply part of how the control freak maintains control), I keep finding myself going back to your description of this "bitch" and questioning it.

I wouldn't consider charisma, power, aggressiveness or attitude to be the building blocks for a bitch & I don't see a person who is drawn to those specific personality traits as being a punk either. If someone sees a woman with those traits and considers them a "bitch" my first reaction would be there's an issue with the one placing the label.

Charisma, power, aggressiveness & attitude aren't negative traits IMO.

Now, if you'd given personality traits like hate-filled, combative, argumentative, possessive, overbearing, condescending etc... those I could see being the building blocks for being a bitch... but charisma?

Really?

Nah.

There's no reason for a woman to feel she has to be meek or timid or risk being branded a bitch.

Just my opinion.

Peace

[sammyrock]

I'ts an intergalactic kegger...


Kaid.


Nuff said with this quote above Rickey ..