The Weakest Rappers(Not Mc's)of Alltime.

[Mike Barnes]

Here's a list of the many,many,many, Weak rappers(Not Mc's)who to me, Have no rhymes, Wack delivery, But plenty(And i mean plenty)of luck to come off making records through the years as well as today.
1.Too Short
2.Snoop Dog
3.Tone Loc
4.Easy E
5.Q-Tip
6.Del the funky Homosapien
7.E-40
8.Trickdaddy
9.Ludicrious
10.Cash Money Click
11.Doctor Dre(From NWA)
12.Booya Tribe
13.Kid Frost
14.Mello man Ace
15.Redman
16.Wu Tang-clan(The whole crew)
17.Puffy
18.Mase
19.Lil Casear(The little cat who was down with Biggie)
20.Sir mix-alot
21.Ja Rule
22.Milk D(Could not rhyme, But The joint 'Top Billing', Was nice, Much respect to Daddy O from Stetasonic with the production.
Later
Mike Barnes

[alex zen]

too short is alright. so is del.

[ May 29, 2003, 06:09 PM: Message edited by: alex zen ]

[Ish]

Yes to all except snoop.

he may not be a phenom but he has a style and flow that <can> be enjoyable.

[D J 1 3 8]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

Alot of these folks do suck, like...

Boo-Ya Tribe? No problem.
Puffy? Obviously. Probably the worst rapper EVER.
Trick Daddy? Sure.
Mello Man Ace. Yup.
Many more too

But...

Some of these dudes have made a real contribution to this thing we call hip hop, some for their flow, some for their subject matter, some for their just straight-up "out there" style, etc. IMO, none of them can top somebody like Rakim, but none of them would ever claim such nonsense. I do believe hip hop has gotten big enough to encompass many diffrenet types of flow, types of humor, etc.

Wu-Tang. Meth has crazy skills and crazy humor. Genius is still making amazing records. Have you heard that joint "fame" where he makes a whole song out of people's names? It's ill. Ghostface too. Some of them are kind "ehn" but whatever.

Q-Tip. Not the tightest flow but he brought a whole new realm of abstractness to hip hop. And you can't front on gems like "Sucka Nigga"

Ludicris. That kid is on some next shit. Listen to his album and you'll see what I mean. His flow is bananas.

Redman. He's dope just for the bug-out factor alone, not to mention some classic joints he's made. And in his own words "I never claimed to be the best type a rapper, I have ta', show a mutha fucca whut I'm afta!"

Snoop. Yeah, his delivery is kinda lazy, but that's also his charm. He's definitely shined on some joints, like "The Shiznit" for example. Plus, he's just such a character, which is part of being a super-star. Rakim had it. Busy-Bee had it. Big L might have been amazing but did he have that extra something that would make him a super-star? I'm not so sure.

In short, it takes all kinds...

[YUJI-SAN]

you also forgot

Nelly
50 cent
Fabulous

You know what they make a whole new genre something like Party Rap or some shit.

[Ron la Rock]

FLUFFY I mean
Puffy
Mase
50 cent (thats right)
fabu-less
Nelly
Jah Fool
Eazy-E (ill voice no rhyme skillz)
Mack 10
Camron
cash money crew
foxy brown (?)
charlie baltimore (?)


this is just my current
Suck wet yack nutz/
whacker than whack
list [img]graemlins/puke.gif[/img]
how do These clowns get love?????
[img]graemlins/conf44.gif[/img]

like said waaayy 2 many 2 even remember
yo Mike there are a few on your list I would
take off cause of creativity & direction(
Q,tip,DEl and WU,)
and some others i thought were ill in the game
I think Redman is dope and has been consistent
with good product
I like snoops delivery though

as I think of em I'll post
[img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

[DJ RON C]

and y'all can take Too Short off the list too. He isn't the best hip hop artist in terms of technique, but back in 84'-86' he was one of the only people doin' that style and talkin' that shit.

Just pick up the 12" of "freaky tales". 11 minutes of what men really talk about when the the girls ain't around... [img]graemlins/cool_shades.gif[/img]

[Ish]

Originally posted by DJ 138:

Ludicris. That kid is on some next shit. Listen to his album and you'll see what I mean. His flow is bananas.

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I feel you on this. I REALLY dig ludacris for some reason. He makes me laugh and I enjoy myself thoroughly when listening to his music.

[Ish]

Rappin Duke


now THERE is a man with skillz....

[img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

[DJ RON C]

the weakest MC's aren't hard to find-I'd say anyone who has gone gold or platinum within the past seven years (except for Outkast, they earned it) [img]graemlins/cool_shades.gif[/img]

[Ron la Rock]

Originally posted by YUJI BR0WN:
you also forgot

Nelly
50 cent
Fabulous

You know what they make a whole new genre something like Party Rap or some shit.

Nothing wrong with party rappers remeber hip hop was born out of the jams/block partys its just these cats ain't even good party rappers
Nelly ( I know i'm stretching it)
being the best out of this (garbage) bunch
I think Ludicrious is entertaining but can't come up with a decent joint 2 save his life

Major problem with the Industry
A RT IST DE VELOP MENT

[ May 29, 2003, 06:54 PM: Message edited by: Ron paizley ]

[The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove]

[img]AR15firing.gif[/img] Biggie Smalls
[img]AR15firing.gif[/img] Tupac
[img]AR15firing.gif[/img] Jay Z
[img]AR15firing.gif[/img] Nelly
[img]AR15firing.gif[/img] Ludacris
[img]AR15firing.gif[/img] Master P

[D J 1 3 8]

Originally posted by Eargasm:
[img]AR15firing.gif[/img] Biggie Smalls

Booooooooo.

What Biggie lacked in complex delivery, he made up for in sheer heart. His rhymes were so damn ghetto, yet had a sense of tragedy and despair that few others have matched. It's hard to define, but I really do think he was amazing.

[David Le C]

I don't know which standards you set, but IMO and from a pure love for hiphop POV, and maybe a bit influenced by the fact that I'm a European and thus try to be a bit neutral in this subject, but I like these rappers on your lists;
_Snoop: (he got his own flow, and one of the coolest voices ever...)
_Biggie: (He got mad skills, one raw mofo!)
_Wu-Tang Clan: You got to be kidding me, the first Wu-Tang album is still a classic, one of the best combinations of killer beats and hardcore rhymes ever...
_Q-Tip: Q has developed his own style and it's all good; you can't front on the old ATCQ stuff, and he was essential there...

[YUJI-SAN]

Originally posted by Ron paizley:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by YUJI BR0WN:
you also forgot

Nelly
50 cent
Fabulous

You know what they make a whole new genre something like Party Rap or some shit.

Nothing wrong with party rappers remeber hip hop was born out of the jams/block partys its just these cats ain't even good party rappers
Nelly ( I know i'm stretching it)
being the best out of this (garbage) bunch
I think Ludicrious is entertaining but can't come up with a decent joint 2 save his life

Major problem with the Industry
A RT IST DE VELOP MENT </font>[/QUOTE]I was talking about the Music of today not back in day you know the whole sippin on Cristal Thang.lol

[DJ Rated M]

Originally posted by YUJI BR0WN:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ron paizley:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by YUJI BR0WN:
you also forgot

Nelly
50 cent
Fabulous

You know what they make a whole new genre something like Party Rap or some shit.

Nothing wrong with party rappers remeber hip hop was born out of the jams/block partys its just these cats ain't even good party rappers
Nelly ( I know i'm stretching it)
being the best out of this (garbage) bunch
I think Ludicrious is entertaining but can't come up with a decent joint 2 save his life

Major problem with the Industry
A RT IST DE VELOP MENT </font>[/QUOTE]I was talking about the Music of today not back in day you know the whole sippin on Cristal Thang.lol </font>[/QUOTE]yugi, don't you know that kats today think that is just "hip-hop"...LOL

[The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove]

Originally posted by DJ 138:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Eargasm:
[img]AR15firing.gif[/img] Biggie Smalls

Booooooooo.

What Biggie lacked in complex delivery, he made up for in sheer heart. His rhymes were so damn ghetto, yet had a sense of tragedy and despair that few others have matched. It's hard to define, but I really do think he was amazing. </font>[/QUOTE]Boooooooooo to you. Biggie sucked. The most over rated rapper of all time.

[DJ CHRIS PURTELL]

Okay how come yall djs get requested to play that shit like 5 times a night ?

some of you kats need to hit the books

[RickB]

I agree with most of your list, but Del is ****in nice with the delivery and his lyrics. No Need for Alarm is one of the underrated classics in hip-hop and his work with Dan tha Automater is not the same old same ol.

[ultra]

I agree with most of your list, Mike, but not all..

Too Short and Ludicrous have funny ass rhymes...their delivery ain't all that bad either bruh.

Big up to Snoop, Del, and Qtip as well!

Wu? Red? Come on man!

Dre got the voice..you gotta admit that.

And E40 is hilarious! [img]smile.gif[/img]

I won't sit here and list wack 'rappers'...there's too many to list...but don't discredit the above cats altogether. They all have SOMETHING-rhymes, delivery, voice!

[img]smile.gif[/img]

[ May 29, 2003, 11:02 PM: Message edited by: ultra ]

[DJ Skillz]

Yo Mike, you forgot Hammer and his boy Too Big MC ha ha. Yo I would not put Wu, [that crew was nice except for U God Ghostface, Rae, Rza, ODB, Meth, Royal Fam, Capp etc...used to come off.], Q tip, Redman on that list. Or Ludicrious, I have seen him take out some cats that tried to test him. He came off in battle mode and was nice. Del was nice too. (Even Mace had some flow back in the days, thats why he was crew with Big L.)

[Discogoddess]

I fail to understand why folk think Lil Kim is nice; rapping about your coochie-for-hire ad naseum is so very tired.

[imported_Kohtake]

Originally posted by DJ 138:


Redman. He's dope just for the bug-out factor alone, not to mention some classic joints he's made. And in his own words "I never claimed to be the best type a rapper, I have ta', show a mutha fucca whut I'm afta!"

Snoop. Yeah, his delivery is kinda lazy, but that's also his charm. He's definitely shined on some joints, like "The Shiznit" for example. Plus, he's just such a character, which is part of being a super-star.

I agree [img]graemlins/grinyes.gif[/img]

[The Good Reverend Rollo Goodlove]

Originally posted by DJ Skillz:
Yo Mike, you forgot Hammer and his boy Too Big MC ha ha. Yo I would not put Wu, [that crew was nice except for U God Ghostface, Rae, Rza, ODB, Meth, Royal Fam, Capp etc...used to come off.], Q tip, Redman on that list. Or Ludicrious, I have seen him take out some cats that tried to test him. He came off in battle mode and was nice. Del was nice too. (Even Mace had some flow back in the days, thats why he was crew with Big L.)

Man you forgot about Deck. He is the best rhymer in the clan.

[AD]

I agree with most of your list except for the following:

Snoopy
Wu-Tang
Redman (even though I don't care about him)


You can't knock Snoop, he's the main flow master. Unless you're an East coast hatin' foo that can't handle the Left Coast rhythm.