Sasha Grey is now a DJ

[LEONARD REMIX RROY]

She adds a piece of reality to Laptop DJ's suck....ain't too many that would not turn her lip service...hee hee hee.

Going from hollywood 3 way pay to - 1 dick in the ass, 1 in the pussy & 1 in the mouth - all at the same time... to one little lap top to make money?

I wonder if she feels cheated / empty a lilbit...LOL!

[dag]

I cant speak for the rest of the world, but the average dj in berlin will earn a couple hundred for a basic party costing around 8€ and drawing a few hundred people. Average would entail a few releases under the belt, and at least one of them on vinyl. The few hundred which turn up are not there specifically because of said dj, but a combination of trusting the space and promoter. A higher profile name without being an intl icon will earn up to 2-3x more. any more, and the promoter cannot expect to break even without sponsoring, and sponsoring is not typical.

for the big names which do not play average gigs, the 4 and 5 figure rates are quite realistic, but many forget what kind of support structure they have to pay for to keep hte brand in motion. posting on a blog and facebook is free, real press is not, and neither are fancy web pages.

[DaBownca]

I cant speak for the rest of the world, but the average dj in berlin will earn a couple hundred for a basic party costing around 8€ and drawing a few hundred people. Average would entail a few releases under the belt, and at least one of them on vinyl. The few hundred which turn up are not there specifically because of said dj, but a combination of trusting the space and promoter. A higher profile name without being an intl icon will earn up to 2-3x more. any more, and the promoter cannot expect to break even without sponsoring, and sponsoring is not typical.

for the big names which do not play average gigs, the 4 and 5 figure rates are quite realistic, but many forget what kind of support structure they have to pay for to keep hte brand in motion. posting on a blog and facebook is free, real press is not, and neither are fancy web pages.

"Average would entail a few releases under the belt, and at least one of them on vinyl."
sad that this is criteria for a DEE fukkin JAY

[DaBownca]

Everyone is too old for believing bullshit and processing it into their worldview.

Once, to a club owner, I was offered a fee to perform six shows for the week: 1 on Thursday and Sunday and 2 on Friday and Saturday. It was a big deal at the time, and I was taking the gig anyhow, but I got on some ol' swole-chested shit and demanded that I receive an amount commensurate to 75% of what the headliner was making. I had some television and movie credits and I had a little name recognition and, thus, I thought I was a draw. I thought I could make the case...although the case was based upon rumors of what the going rate for headliners with a television appearance were getting. I mean, PARROTED around during every open mic, every coffee house writing session. Every time I share a cup of coffee with a broke comic, he's tellin' me I should be a headliner and making what Steve Bernie Harvey Wilborn makes a weekend, which is $2500. I have as much TV. I have two movies and working on a third...don't let them treat me like that...assert myself...

...yeah...YEAH...YEAH!!! Fuk 'dat shit!

So I deliberate on this long and hard - on some ol' smart dumb nigga shit - come up with a commensurate rate based upon my experience and how much work I would be doing as a feature, take my young stupid ass to the club owner and demand, with all the highmindedness I could muster, to be treated the same as soandso because I'm doing just as much in the spotlight as they, blah blah bla-zay skippy...

Then the club owner said, "Take it or leave it."

And I took it.

So I do the gig, and do really well, and got good marks from the crowd, so I'll get to come back. I used to think this club owner had it out for me because he wasn't friendly with me like the other comics. I'm waiting around for my check after the show on Sunday and the owner comes out with his check register. Instead of the envelope, he brings out the entire book and, as he makes out the check to me, he positions the business check book on the table in such a way as to leave the stubs exposed.

Oh, the names that were on those stubs...and the AMOUNTS, all of them shockingly less than the rumors - the RUMORS I BASED MY FEE UPON. He's having a ball, too, flipping pages, as if he's looking for the right check number, just so I can see all the names and amounts. Damn, I feel small. Like, microscopically small.

He writes out a check for his standard fee for feature acts, which wound up being about $100 more than my well-researched and calculated percentage of the ACTUAL AMOUNT the last BIG NAME (pfft) received. Then he tells me, in a straight deadpan with no respect for my feelings, "No one makes what they are rumored to make. We hear about this $2,500 number and we laugh at it. Club owners and show bookers communicate. Otherwise we'd get ripped off. Don't listen to these guys. You're going to ruin your career."

This was when I was 20 years old. You cats are in your 40s. Grow the fuck up. Seriously. Or at least stop spreading the negativity around. Performing for others is a privilege, not a right. You want to make Sasha Grey Rumor Money and have Cumshot DJ status?

Make sure you're worthy.

I don't think I'm understanding. Are you saying every time out you take what they give you?

[Jamie 3:26]

"Average would entail a few releases under the belt, and at least one of them on vinyl."
sad that this is criteria for a DEE fukkin JAY

The game has changed...and it's been this way for a long time...good/great dj's are usually local and stay that way,due to their mindset.It doesn't matter how dope of a dj you are,if you aren't exposing yourself to the masses.

You have to market yourself....and be marketable.Its the way it is.Now,if you are on top of your shit AND your are a talented jock,you are good...but it takes very hard work and dedication to cross into other markets.

I am still putting myself out there and I have 4 records out and a few remixes for folks....still not known to a lot of folks,in different places...and I can't let me ego hold me back.That shit just makes me want to grind even harder....

[Daniel, Grand Duke of Stony Island]

I don't think I'm understanding. Are you saying every time out you take what they give you?

Man, you missed the point.

I'm telling a story, not trying to be someone's agent. There's a moral there. Something about NOT believing the hype. Keep your eyes off the periphery and mind your path.

Where you got that other shit from...

[dag]

"Average would entail a few releases under the belt, and at least one of them on vinyl."
sad that this is criteria for a DEE fukkin JAY

different scene here. producers love to dj, and djs love to produce. keep in mind that native instruments, ableton, and beatport have major operations or HQs in berlin.

releaseless djs still get bookings. in fact, a few are even residents of berghain.

average means that some djs put out lots of material and some none at all. Then there are the djs who have worked up a decent name and "work" with producers to get their names on records. Nothing new in that game, only that the players are smaller than back in the day.

[DaBownca]

Man, you missed the point.

I'm telling a story, not trying to be someone's agent. There's a moral there. Something about NOT believing the hype. Keep your eyes off the periphery and mind your path.

Where you got that other shit from...

Thats why I asked I felt as if i were misinterpreting your message. I got it from this statement basically
"Then the club owner said, "Take it or leave it."

And I took it."
and as the story progressed it leaned more toward that being the correct path and not that you'd made a mistake by doing so

[DaBownca]

different scene here. producers love to dj, and djs love to produce. keep in mind that native instruments, ableton, and beatport have major operations or HQs in berlin.

releaseless djs still get bookings. in fact, a few are even residents of berghain.

average means that some djs put out lots of material and some none at all. Then there are the djs who have worked up a decent name and "work" with producers to get their names on records. Nothing new in that game, only that the players are smaller than back in the day.

Not that different here..... it just irks me that it is criteria ANYWHERE

[Daniel, Grand Duke of Stony Island]

Not that different here..... it just irks me that it is criteria ANYWHERE

It's showbiz. You pay for the face. Germany typically overinflates celebrity value. It's where stars go to get one last breath. Case in point: Hasselhoff.

[DaBownca]

It's showbiz. You pay for the face. Germany typically overinflates celebrity value. It's where stars go to get one last breath. Case in point: Hasselhoff.

Yeah yeah doesn't mean it doesn't suck

[mjoseph]

http://deephousepage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222679

[DodgeDanger]

http://deephousepage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222679

Thanks for the link.................

[dag]

It's showbiz. You pay for the face. Germany typically overinflates celebrity value. It's where stars go to get one last breath. Case in point: Hasselhoff.

lol, its nowhere as bad as hte uk, though

hasselhoff got seriously clowned the last time he came through, but yeah, he got more press than the 250€ djs. Coolio did some tv show a few years ago

[Daniel, Grand Duke of Stony Island]

lol, its nowhere as bad as hte uk, though

hasselhoff got seriously clowned the last time he came through, but yeah, he got more press than the 250€ djs. Coolio did some tv show a few years ago

Yeah, the UK celeb stuff makes US reality television seem contrite.

Germany is real cool, tho'.

[El Mayimbe]

No one in the business of entertaining others EVER - and I mean NEVER EVER, even if the planets aligned - make the money per gig they are rumored to make.

yeah, um, sure, ok
i guess the thousands of dollars exchanged in my hands for the DJs I represented was just an illusion



holy shit DHP is srsly filled with clueless old folks that DONT KNOW what theyre talking about

[LEONARD REMIX RROY]

I wonder if her past will put her - HEAD of her peer DJ's.....

ha ha ha ha ha ha