Results 1 to 5 of 5

Thread: If you have an ING Direct account..

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Washington DC
    Posts
    9,366

    If you have an ING Direct account..

    If you have an ING checking/debit account like their Electric Orange product line, be forewarned that their fraud detection and resolution process blows clap infested, sweaty, flea ridden donkey balls.

    They do not proactively catch fraudulent activity on your cards, nor do they immediately credit back fraudulent charges to your account.

    They will allow all of the transactions to go through & hit your account and then they'll tell you that within a few days you will receive an email with a form to fill out. Once you fill out that form and fax it back, then they will start investigating the charges and then, after their investigation, they may provide you with a provisional credit.

    This is so far behind any other bank I deal with policy/procedure wise it's ridiculous.

    In 2011, they are emailing a form that asks you for your address, your customer number, your card number, and a list of which transactions you are disputing and then requiring you to fax that back to someone.

    The form itself contains such useless ass information that they already have available that I can't help but think that it's a stall tactic of some sort. All of that is info they have available, that at WORST should be handled electronically.

    **** colin powell warning.. long post ahead ****

    All of our cards got compromised thanks to a brick & mortar retailer getting hacked.

    3 of our 4 cards had fraudulent charges hit.

    Immediately the banks caught the charges, denied them, called us and asked if we were trying to buy $500 worth of stuff at Home Depot in Ontario, locked our cards & issued replacement cards.

    Not a single dime was charged to any of our accounts. They caught it & they stopped it proactively.

    Now for the ING version...

    They notified me in mid-Nov that our cards had been compromised, that we would be getting new cards in the mail and that my card would be shut off on Dec 5th.

    On Dec 12 & Dec 13th someone ran up almost $500 in charges via multiple purchases at multiple retailers in California.

    ING allowed all of the transactions, even though per their own email, the cards should have been shut off on Dec 5th.

    When we called in to complain, they told us:

    They were sorry the charges went through
    They didn't know why I was told my card would be deactivated on Dec 5th
    They would not issue immediate credit back to my account
    They would email us some forms within 3 business days for us to fill out, THEN they would start the investigation
    I could expect to see a provisional credit within 7-10 business days of them receiving my signed forms back

    When I asked to escalate to a manager, that manager provided NO additional assistance. The manager actually told me their fraud process is set up this way because, and I quote:

    "95% of the time, customers call to complain about a fraudulent charge and then after they fill this paperwork out and think about it, they realize it isn't a fraudulent charge after all."

    To make matters even better, the manager informed me that 2 of the 4 charges were in pending status, would be in pending status until the 16th and that they couldn't do ANYTHING with those charges until after they post to my account, so I would have to wait until the 16th, then call back and start the process of disputing those charges.

    At that point I demanded to be forwarded to a manager who actually had the authority to answer my questions and approve a credit back to my account. The person I was dealing with said they were the end of the line, that there wasn't anyone above them with any additional authority. The only additional action I could take would be to EMAIL some customer service email and someone would typically respond within 24 hours.

    I insisted on speaking directly to someone, so they put me on hold for about 45 minutes and then dropped the call.

    I've emailed their Ombudsman, with no response yet.
    I've emailed that customer service email address, with no response yet.
    I emailed their bullshit "here's our CEO & his email address" address from their website, with no response yet.

    I'm at the point now where I'm searching the net trying to find random VP email addresses for folks internal to ING and I'm just going to start emailing anyone/everyone I can find until SOMEONE responds and acknowledges their piss poor handing of this matter.

    Ive never had any issues with our ING accounts until now, but they have completely screwed the pooch on this one.

    Just be forewarned.
    <cfif isDefined("session.user.sense") and ('#session.user.sense#') eq '0'>
    <cfset option = delete>
    </cfif>

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Posts
    45,271
    I've used them for years w no problems. I'm surprised by your experience as they are pretty highly rated. I would try customer service again.

    Here is address of ombudsman

    The Ombudsman
    ING Direct
    1 S. Orange St. Wilmington, DE 19801

    These kind of things are very frustrating. Good luck
    As for the charges against me, I am unconcerned. I am beyond their timid lying morality, and so I am beyond caring.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Washington DC
    Posts
    9,366
    Quote Originally Posted by The Buddy Love Show View Post
    I've used them for years w no problems. I'm surprised by your experience as they are pretty highly rated. I would try customer service again.

    Here is address of ombudsman

    The Ombudsman
    ING Direct
    1 S. Orange St. Wilmington, DE 19801

    These kind of things are very frustrating. Good luck
    Yeah, I've never had an issue with them either. We've had multiple accounts with them (checking, savings, kids savings, etc) for 6+ years with no problems but the way they've handled this has been completely botched.

    They are using a fraud response process that was outdated 10 yrs ago and in an effort to provide completely uniform customer support they have developed a system unable to adequately address the more difficult customer complaints/issues.

    Its a shame because I liked them up until now, but the way they've handled this and the way their support team has responded has completely soured me on them.

    I've already contacted the Ombudsmen via email and am drafting an actual letter as we speak but really, I'm almost at the point where it doesn't matter.

    I don't know that any response they could provide would be sufficient so its really more about voicing frustration than anything else and I don't like to bitch for the sake of bitching.
    <cfif isDefined("session.user.sense") and ('#session.user.sense#') eq '0'>
    <cfset option = delete>
    </cfif>

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Chicago, Illinois
    Posts
    9,355
    Been with ING for a while, don't have a debit card though, strictly use it for savings, but I've never had a problem..........

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Washington DC
    Posts
    9,366
    Update:


    After being told multiple times that their process was their process and there wasn't anyone that could circumvent that process, I received an email today saying the money had been credited back to our account as of 11:45am.

    Obviously someone circumvented it.

    Still no word on my replacement card or why the transactions went through to start with tho & no response to my issues with how the whole thing was handled.
    <cfif isDefined("session.user.sense") and ('#session.user.sense#') eq '0'>
    <cfset option = delete>
    </cfif>

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •