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    First Impressions: Beats Mixr

    1st of all these are the loudest headphones I've ever put on my head. I don't know if I'm saying this right, but it's a pounding loud. They bang your eardrums relentlessly and you can feel it; I got ear fatigue within two minutes. They're a very tight, secure fit and that coupled with very hard earpads it was a very painful experience also. I wouldn't recommend these for extended listening on flights or traveling. Not a comfortable experience at all. But, for DJ'ing, I would probably put these up against anything else out there. You get a lot of versatility with the aforementioned volume, plus they sound a lot sweeter than other DJ headphones. That is, if you listen with both ears. These headphones seem bump up the lows and low mids from about 60 hz to 200, right where you get the clarity of your kick drum, and roll back anything under 60 hz, where your sub bass is, which incidentally you don't want to hear in your mixing headphones anyway. The foot comes through very clear in a DJ set, and in the midst of a loud sound system set, I was extremely impressed by the clarity.The mids where your backbeat/snare/handclaps are is also very clear, "prominent" or "pronounced" I want to say, though I wouldn't say *bumped up* like the foot and sonically, these have the potential to be the best ever DJ headphones.

    As with all Beats, the soundstage seems to shrink if you're not listening at full volume. Not going to comment on the "sheen" or "sparkle" on the high end that the rest of the Beats line has until I've broken them in a little bit more, but I was distracted by an overall harshness or beating. These things hit hard. And no batteries! They're even louder than the Studio Beats but they're definitely not a Studio Beats replacement because they don't sound anywhere near as sweet and they're a much less comfortable for extended listening because of the harder ear pads.

    For professional mixing? Forget it. Absolutely out of the question. However, for singers they're sensational because they isolate the sound from the outside world pretty good. Puts the vocal right up close and intimate like Luther Vandross.

    So in conclusion, I'd say these headphones are for a very specific purpose; spinning, and for that purpose they are probably the best ever. Seriously, sonically they seem to be engineered perfectly for the party. For iPad/iPod/portable music listening? Even though that's listed on the box as what they're "made for", I'd have to give it a pass.
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    Very important note: In case you didn't know, fake Dr. Dre Beats are rampant on Amazon, eBay, and of course any place like Gumtree or Craigslist. They've already faked the Mixr's and they've been out less than a month:







    A friend of mine tried 6 ads before he got a legit pair of Studio Beats, he was going crazy looking at all the YouTube videos on what the fakes were doing, because the fakes were evolving very fast. If you look on YouTube for fake Beats you'll find literally hundreds of videos detailing each step of the evolution. The fakes have gotten to the point where they're now duplicating serial numbers that you only see when you open them up. Fine details like brightness of Dr. Dre's picture on the box have even been corrected. And even the sound itself is getting very close. Hell, at this point buying a pair of the fakes is not really that bad of a deal.

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    Nice review Marshall!!! Seems to be a similar design to the Sennheiser HD's. I would like to do a side by side comparison.
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    Mr.Jefferson these are very nice headphones.For the price range is it worth the cost? BTW nice review,thanks for sharing.
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    Great review......JMJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by sammyrock View Post
    Mr.Jefferson these are very nice headphones.For the price range is it worth the cost? BTW nice review,thanks for sharing.
    It's worth the cost if you're a DJ-I haven't heard better sound in a DJ headphone.........ever. If you're iPod/Phone listening no. If you're mixing a record, hell no. Audiophile listening on a high end headphone amp no way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DodgeDanger View Post
    Nice review Marshall!!! Seems to be a similar design to the Sennheiser HD's. I would like to do a side by side comparison.
    Which Sennheisers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Jefferson View Post
    It's worth the cost if you're a DJ-I haven't heard better sound in a DJ headphone.........ever. If you're iPod/Phone listening no. If you're mixing a record, hell no. Audiophile listening on a high end headphone amp no way.
    Are they as bulky as the Pioneer or Sony?......JMJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMJ View Post
    Are they as bulky as the Pioneer or Sony?......JMJ
    They are wayyyyy lighter than both-and each ear folds up so you can listen to only one ear if you want. What's more, even when you fold one ear up it still fits snugly on the upper head so they're not in danger of falling off. You think it's a useless gimmick until you actually do it while you're mixing, then you kind of smile to yourself because it really is kind of corny but damned if it doesn't come in handy. They're just as loud as the Sonys and the Pioneers too if not louder-I haven't done a direct comparison yet but I will soon. Pretty sure they're louder though because these are the 1st headphones I've ever used that I have to turn the volume down on my iPhone. And let me tell you, after 25+ years of loud club sound systems, I don't turn the volume down on shit.
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    Sennheiser hd 25s are the bomb. sennheiser is best at producing a full line of DJ headphones of superior quality
    The new Allen and Heath xone sound great (made by Audio Technica) but is crazy expensive
    Sony 700s (own)
    Pioneer HDJ 2000 (own) are great (IMO the best features to price ratio)
    Ultrasone models are dope as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Jefferson View Post
    They are wayyyyy lighter than both-and each ear folds up so you can listen to only one ear if you want. What's more, even when you fold one ear up it still fits snugly on the upper head so they're not in danger of falling off. You think it's a useless gimmick until you actually do it while you're mixing, then you kind of smile to yourself because it really is kind of corny but damned if it doesn't come in handy. They're just as loud as the Sonys and the Pioneers too if not louder-I haven't done a direct comparison yet but I will soon. Pretty sure they're louder though because these are the 1st headphones I've ever used that I have to turn the volume down on my iPhone. And let me tell you, after 25+ years of loud club sound systems, I don't turn the volume down on shit.
    Thanks for the info - I'm using Shure earphones right now, and partly because of the bulk of both the Sony and the Pioneer, although mostly due to ear fatigue. I need about 1/3 of the headphone monitor volume with the Shures. With one earcup on with both the Sony and Pioneer, the damn things would slide right off my head (plus the Sony 700 distorts badly after about an hour of playing)......JMJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Buddy Love Show View Post
    Sennheiser hd 25s are the bomb. sennheiser is best at producing a full line of DJ headphones of superior quality
    The new Allen and Heath xone sound great (made by Audio Technica) but is crazy expensive
    Sony 700s (own)
    Pioneer HDJ 2000 (own) are great (IMO the best features to price ratio)
    Ultrasone models are dope as well
    The Beats wipe out any DJ headphones from Sennheiser by a wide margin imo, Haven't heard the Allen and Heaths, The Sonys have never had anything even resembling a soundstage or stereo separation (intentional) and they're industry standard because they're loud. The Pioneers sound better than the Sony's and are just as loud, but I've blown two pairs where all I heard was crackling afterwards, so I can't recommend their durability if you play them at high volumes. The Beats sound better than the Pioneers, but again time will tell if they're as durable as the Sonys. I own pair of Ultrasone 2400's and the soundstage and separation is better than all of the above, but i wouldn't call them DJ headphones because they're just not loud enough and they're open backed. Ce Ce Rogers has been raving to me about the Ultrasone 750's for months and I may wind up getting a pair, I think they have closed backs and are louder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Jefferson View Post
    The Beats wipe out any DJ headphones from Sennheiser by a wide margin imo, Haven't heard the Allen and Heaths, The Sonys have never had anything even resembling a soundstage or stereo separation (intentional) and they're industry standard because they're loud. The Pioneers sound better than the Sony's and are just as loud, but I've blown two pairs where all I heard was crackling afterwards, so I can't recommend their durability if you play them at high volumes. The Beats sound better than the Pioneers, but again time will tell if they're as durable as the Sonys. I own pair of Ultrasone 2400's and the soundstage and separation is better than all of the above, but i wouldn't call them DJ headphones because they're just not loud enough and they're open backed. Ce Ce Rogers has been raving to me about the Ultrasone 750's for months and I may wind up getting a pair, I think they have closed backs and are louder.
    Fair points

    I'm looking at loudness, reproduction, and durability. As I use one cup, stereo performance isn't a deal breaker but dynamic range is. Additionally, im not monitoring through them continuously for hours at a time so fatigue isnt an issue. Ive always been parsimonious with my use of headphone gain because i want to avoid hearing loss. All of the above seem to operate well across my above listed parameters Outside of the A&H all my above listed phones have stood the test of time. Lastly, the Beats are ridiculously overpriced. Compared to their performance vs other players in this niche they are far from a bargain( as are the A&H ).

    However, headphones really are a matter of personal taste
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    Well, it sounds like the Sony's are your best option. Sony's have a dynamic range of 5hz to 30khz. The Beats have a dynamic range of 20hz to 20 khz, which is pretty much what everybody else has with a few notable exceptions in the high end range. There are a few in the lower range like Panasonics which also have sensational headphones in the lower price range, but they're not really for DJs.

    The way the Sony's excelled was they were able to capture the kick frequencies better than everyone else, though that wasn't entirely due to the dynamic range, it was due to the poor separation. See, the kick drum on 99.99999% of all records is mono and in the middle. Claps too. Vocals too. Intentional bad separation so that you can listen to either ear and get the same thing (yeah, they know people customize them) Most kicks operate in the 25-200hz range. Anything lower than 20hz is inaudible, but felt, so the 5hz is great for marketing worthless in a loud club. If you're listening at home you'll feel the bass, but with the Sonys you don't get anything else. No separation, no soundstage.

    Now with the Beats you have a modern engineering take on mixing: you want to hear the kick and the backbeat above all else, with loud music playing all around you. So you say all kicks are basically 60hz to 200, forget anything under because that will muddy stuff up, and lets boost that 60-200hz range to holy hell. Kicks not only cut through clarity wise, but they hit you right on your eardrum because they're so loud. Cuts out the subs because they're worthless in a club. Very David Guetta: Kick obvious, claps obvious. One ear off, kick and clap still obvious. Put both ears on and everything sounds sensational, because of the isolation, so the DJ gets pumped. Worth the price for DJ'ing? Ummm, I'll say no. Maybe at $150 off yes, but they're definately better than every option I've seen.

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    Marshall

    Thanks for the music education
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Jefferson View Post
    Very important note: In case you didn't know, fake Dr. Dre Beats are rampant on Amazon, eBay, and of course any place like Gumtree or Craigslist. They've already faked the Mixr's and they've been out less than a month:







    A friend of mine tried 6 ads before he got a legit pair of Studio Beats, he was going crazy looking at all the YouTube videos on what the fakes were doing, because the fakes were evolving very fast. If you look on YouTube for fake Beats you'll find literally hundreds of videos detailing each step of the evolution. The fakes have gotten to the point where they're now duplicating serial numbers that you only see when you open them up. Fine details like brightness of Dr. Dre's picture on the box have even been corrected. And even the sound itself is getting very close. Hell, at this point buying a pair of the fakes is not really that bad of a deal.
    I happen to know where the very good duplicates can acquired for a good price if anyone is interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkny11203 View Post
    I happen to know where the very good duplicates can acquired for a good price if anyone is interested.
    It can't really be overstated how many fakes are out there-and how good they've gotten. It seems like every time the pirates gt busted out on YouTube, they adjust to cover up the mistake.

    At 1st the sound difference was obvious, then it got closer and closer until I couldn't tell without a legit set of Beats to compare them to. YouTube pointed out little things like the amount of gloss on the cables and the texture of the ear pads. Then serial numbers inside the phone casing. They've hit the ground running with the Mixr's-right down to the quality control stickers. Now they've already started doing sound comparisons between the real Mixrs and the fakes! I had an ex-gf get a fake pair(Studios) off Amazon..........AMAZON, I mean come on! eBay sure, but Amazon means no online place is safe.

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    in the 3rd fake Mixrs video I posted the guy actually says the fake Mixrs sound better than his $400 Beats Pros.............................................. ................
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    Been really happy with these AIAIAI TMA-1's. I've had them for awhile and they have held up real well. Excellent sound, durable and lite.

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    I think I saw those in the Apple store yesterday, didn't think of listening to them, do you use them for DJ'ing, or just general listening. Curious because last year someone mentioned the V-Modas to me and they wound up being my favorite headphones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Jefferson View Post
    I think I saw those in the Apple store yesterday, didn't think of listening to them, do you use them for DJ'ing, or just general listening. Curious because last year someone mentioned the V-Modas to me and they wound up being my favorite headphones.
    I just use them for DJ'ing. I rarely use headphones outside of dj'ing due to psychological ear fatigue. Best dj headphones I've ever owned though. You can replace the ear cups and chord which is also a great feature as I've lost expensive headphones to chord damage before. I'm a minimalist when it comes to playing with headphones though. Use only one ear and use that barely. I try to mix off of the system and the monitor as much as I can. Use the Heaphones just to find that quick cue/entry point. Would love to hear your review of them.

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    The headphones have a 1.7m cable, 6.3mm stereo plug converter, and include the following specs:

    Transducer Principle: Dynamic, closed
    Driver Unit Size: 40 mm
    Impedance: 32+/-15% Ohm
    Load Rating: 0.1W
    Frequency Response: 20 to 20.000 Hz
    Total Harmonic Distortion: <0.3%
    Sensitivity: 110+/-3dB Weight w/o
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    Thank you for the info.
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    a problem wih a lot of the specs in this thread is that they have no reference. frequency range means nothing unless noting at what anount the sound tapers off. -3dB at 20 hz? -5? -10? -20???

    The lower an impedence a speaker has, the more heat the amp has to dissipate. That heat will cause distortion.

    It's been a long night, but let me off er teh advice fo not putting too much faith into the specs of dj headphones, although companies like sennheiser and shure are probably less marketing driven.. Useful for comparing products on paper is to see graphs which show more of the full sotry of what the speaker is doing across the frequency range, whether response, distorition, impedance, etc

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    My bad. I offered an explanation outside of the specs on what was happening with the sound, then tried to explain it in non-pro terminology so that I wouldn't lose anyone. I couldn't accurately say the exact amount the sound tapered off or bumped up at certain frequencies because I didn't have a measurement device. All I could do was give a general frequency range using pro mixing on a desk as a reference. I'm not so sure if I went through the trouble of measuring headphone output properly and giving exact plus and minus dB values at different frequencies that DHP is the place to post it.

    In other words, I just gave my personal opinion on whether the shit sounded good or not

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    Your review was more useful than any of the of the specs that one could post. Despite numbers, one still has to listen I was actually replying to Sal's post regarding the Aiaiai headphones, but it was not meant to pick on anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dag View Post
    Your review was more useful than any of the of the specs that one could post. Despite numbers, one still has to listen I was actually replying to Sal's post regarding the Aiaiai headphones, but it was not meant to pick on anyone.

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