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    Donovan McNabb doesn't mind criticism of his performance. He's upset that Rush Limbaugh made his race an issue.

    And the Philadelphia Eagles' quarterback says it's too late for an apology from the conservative commentator, who said the media has overrated McNabb because they want to see a black quarterback succeed.

    ``It's somewhat shocking to hear that on national TV from him,'' McNabb said Wednesday. ``It's not something that I can sit here and say won't bother me.''

    Limbaugh insisted Wednesday he had ``no racist intent whatsoever.'' In fact, the conservative commentator said he must have been right; otherwise, the comments would not have sparked such outrage.

    Before McNabb led the Eagles to a 23-13 victory over the Buffalo Bills on Sunday, Limbaugh said on ESPN's pregame show that he didn't think McNabb was as good as perceived from the start.

    ``I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,'' Limbaugh said on ``Sunday NFL Countdown.'' ``There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team.''

    Limbaugh did not back down during his syndicated radio talk show Wednesday.

    ``All this has become the tempest that it is because I must have been right about something,'' Limbaugh said. ``If I wasn't right, there wouldn't be this cacophony of outrage that has sprung up in the sports writer community.''

    The NFL disclaimed any responsibility from Limbaugh's remarks.

    ``ESPN knew what it was getting when they hired Rush Limbaugh,'' league vice president Joe Browne said. ``ESPN selects its on-air talent, not the NFL.''

    Chris Berman, who anchors the ESPN show, said he did not believe Limbaugh's tone or intent was malicious.

    ``As cut and dry as it seems in print, I didn't think so when it went by my ears,'' he said. ``I probably should have looked to soften it. We're sorry we upset a guy who got off to a rough start.''

    McNabb said someone on the show should have taken on Limbaugh. Among the other panelists are former players Michael Irvin and Tom Jackson, both of whom are black.

    ``I'm not pointing at anyone but someone should have said it,'' McNabb said of the panelists, who also include former quarterback Steve Young. ``I wouldn't have cared if it was the cameraman.''
    Limbaugh was scheduled to be in Philadelphia on Thursday to speak at a broadcast convention. McNabb said he wouldn't be welcome at the Eagles' practice.

    ``I really don't want to see him,'' McNabb said. ``You can say you're sorry all you want, it doesn't matter. It's been said.''

    The extent of the controversy became more evident when Democratic presidential candidates Wesley Clark and Howard Dean urged ESPN to fire Limbaugh. Clark, a retired Army general, called the remarks ``hateful and ignorant speech.'' And Dean, a former Vermont governor, followed up with his own assessment - ``absurd and offensive.''

    The NAACP also condemned Limbaugh's remarks, calling them ``bigoted and ignorant,'' and called for the network to fire Limbaugh or at least provide an opposing point of view on the show.

    ``It is appalling that ESPN has to go to this extent to try to increase viewership,'' NAACP President Kweisi Mfume said in a statement.

    ESPN said: ``We have conveyed to Mr. Limbaugh that his comments were insensitive and inappropriate.''

    McNabb, who was runner-up for the league MVP award in 2000 and has led the Eagles to two straight NFC championship games, said he has no quarrel with Limbaugh's comment on his ability.

    ``I know I played badly the first two games,'' he said.

    McNabb got off to the worst start of his career this season and was the NFL's lowest-rated starting quarterback after losses to Tampa Bay and New England. Still, the Eagles are 36-22 in games he has started, including 4-3 in the playoffs.

    Limbaugh on Wednesday reiterated that he doesn't think McNabb is a bad player, just that he isn't as good as some media members think he is.

    ``This is such a mountain out of a molehill,'' he said. ``There's no racism here, there's no racist intent whatsoever.''

    Limbaugh is the radio host of the politically focused ``Rush Limbaugh Show,'' which is syndicated in more than 650 markets worldwide.

    He spent most of the 1990s assailing then-President Clinton and now spends Sunday mornings talking football, a job he called ``the fulfillment of a dream.''

    Limbaugh has helped increase the ratings for ``Sunday NFL Countdown.'' ESPN spokesman Dave Nagle said ratings are up 10 percent overall. Sunday's show drew its biggest audience in the regular season since 1996.

    Seven black quarterbacks started games last weekend. Two other blacks who regularly start, Daunte Culpepper of Minnesota and Michael Vick of Atlanta, were out with injuries.

    Asked about Limbaugh's comments, Eagles defensive end N.D. Kalu said: ``He speaks well, he's well-read, but he's an idiot.''

    10/01/03 20:04 EDT


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    I loved Mcnab at Syracuse and at Philly too. Everyone has struggles and these first few games it was clear timing was not clicking for Donovan.

    Rush's comment were very unexpected. I share bassically the same stance as Donovan, that it is really suprising to see such a famous radio personality say something so controversial in the context it was in.

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    Will be interesting to see how ESPN reacts. I saw eearlier that a ESPN rep was defending Limbaugh.

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    What qualifications does Buchanan have for the job anyways? Is he related to Buck Buchanan?
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    the network hired Rush only to spark rage in people having the knowledge that he is also unqualified as a sports reporter. his image attracts "angry and stupid white men" ,quoting michael moore author of "stupid white men". they know controversy is good for ratings.

    we love responding to the tube and to people we love to hate.

    [ October 01, 2003, 09:20 PM: Message edited by: music ]

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    Originally posted by Ish:


    Rush's comment were very unexpected.

    Respectfully, you must not know much about Rush Limbaugh. Totally ignorant and expected from him.

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    Originally posted by AK:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ish:


    Rush's comment were very unexpected.

    Respectfully, you must not know much about Rush Limbaugh. Totally ignorant and expected from him. </font>[/QUOTE]DITTO!

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    Originally posted by Mike Johnson:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by AK:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ish:


    Rush's comment were very unexpected.

    Respectfully, you must not know much about Rush Limbaugh. Totally ignorant and expected from him. </font>[/QUOTE]DITTO! </font>[/QUOTE]Dittohead huh? [img]icon_rofl.gif[/img]

    [ October 02, 2003, 07:43 AM: Message edited by: Bernie ]

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    ...but of course(again!), we are the paranoid ones for thinking there is some racism(at least), or prejudices(at best) here.....baffling that this fat fvck is allowed to continue to rant on our airwaves.....

    ...we are the paranoid ones...
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    The responses by the presidential candidates were interesting....Sharpton, Clark and Dean were out in front on this
    As for the charges against me, I am unconcerned. I am beyond their timid lying morality, and so I am beyond caring.

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    ...However, there may be another problem that may need to be addressed...

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    Granted McNabb is a badass... but how far off is Limbaugh in his commentary on the media though?

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    Originally posted by liL Ray:
    ...but of course(again!), we are the paranoid ones for thinking there is some racism(at least), or prejudices(at best) here.....baffling that this fat fvck is allowed to continue to rant on our airwaves.....

    ...we are the paranoid ones...
    Oh, you didn't know? Situations like this don't happen very often; it's an (let me get the right word here...) 'ISOLATED' incident.

    I can that BS comin' over the airwaves now...

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    Originally posted by JL:
    Granted McNabb is a badass... but how far off is Limbaugh in his commentary on the media though?
    way the **** off

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    I hear you, but couldn't it be argued that the media treats sports figures differently based on race?
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    no, you would not get an arguement from me

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    i am curious...

    is the "media" really desirous that black quarterback do well?

    has the media shown any sort of bias towards black quarterbacks playing well?

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    is the media any different than any other entity, corporation, organization in america?

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    More problems for good ole Rush

    Rush is a dope fiend
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    Originally posted by mhd:
    is the media any different than any other entity, corporation, organization in america?
    yes, they are.

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    Mcnab is a great playmaker,I dont care what anyone say,its a TEAM effort.
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    word, his comment was off because he thought the media doesn't consider McNabb a great player, and only got attention cause he's black, when in fact that was his misconception.
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    Originally posted by liL Ray:
    ...but of course(again!), we are the paranoid ones for thinking there is some racism(at least), or prejudices(at best) here.....baffling that this fat fvck is allowed to continue to rant on our airwaves.....

    ...we are the paranoid ones...
    Yeah,: real fvckin paranoid... :scared

    Stevie Wonder could see were the fat fvcker is going, gone or has been!

    ESPN want the ratings so we should just turn the other cheek. Shouldn't we? [img]graemlins/nono.gif[/img] I mean we've done it b4. What makes this time any different...Huuuh! [img]mad1.gif[/img]
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    hey brother alan knig, i know very much about dumb rush, but the question is why they hired him. rush to spark and incite rage. it's known he is a white conservative-right-wing republican.

    i am familiar w/ his positions on policy issuses such as affirmative action and death penality ,etc.

    still you are one of my favorite djs.

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