My new favourite Dj...Paris Hilton

[DaBownca]

Talk to anyone who does not go out to clubs. Most people don't know who Masters at Work or Annae (or fill in the blank for any other house personalities) are. Let's put everything in perspective, house music is a niche.

Even if that did how would that qualify as most countries fam?

[House]

i'll take soft put downs over hard ones.

A .22 to the back of the dome probably does feel better than a .45. If one feels anything at all

[Chris Chase]

The way I see it:

Taint nobody complaining about Ananes talent (or lack thereof)

haha. To be real, I saw her DJ once since she was sharing the bill with Louie Vega and her set completely sucked along with sucking the life out of the party. She had a 4 or 8 bar loop of a beat going for 5 minutes while she found a track to mix it with. Thankfully Louie got back on to revive the party. I think she is a great, seductive singer and should stick to singing.

[Martin Red]

honkies

No, and No, works both ways you know.

[Daniel, Grand Duke of Stony Island]

No, and No, works both ways you know.

You sliced apart the word from it's use in context, Martin. My point was everyone has an integrity argument they cold make. They're all equally ridiculous.

[Martin Red]

You sliced apart the word from it's use in context, Martin. My point was everyone has an integrity argument they cold make. They're all equally ridiculous.

Agreed, but I use opposites and see how that's sits with the great unwashed of DHP.

If you put, any other racial slur in their I am sure that word would be seperated from content and quoted 15 times by page 3. Yet no one said fuck all.

All the cunts too busy lining up to protect the honour of a famous billionairess, oh the poor celebrity model billionairess women really needs these fucking no marks to throw their jackets in the mud for her, fucking sad to watch this page now, it's like celeb gossip page and suck ups with satans cock sticking out the back out their heads. Fucking TMZ for housetards.

[Sal Paradise]

Deadmau5 To The Rescue Meme has surfaced.

[House]

All the cunts too busy lining up to protect the honour of a famous billionairess,

I didn't read any posts protecting her honor or her talent (or lack thereof). In fact, the implication of Danny's initial posting is that Paris Hilton has little talent

Anyways...

I'd still smash it because talented djs are tenth on my list of party requisites

[Martin Red]

One thing I can say.....folk like her can hustle!

Folk like her? urrm, celebrity, model, hotel billionairess "it girl" with an army of publicists etc, who went out with Leonardo DiCaprio and Oscar de la Hoya, mates with Donald Trump, star of her own porno kinda folks like her ?

it's really odd that folks her her can hustle, yeah, real mystery that ;)

[Martin Red]

I'd still smash it because talented djs are tenth on my list of party requisites

Agreed, i'de eat eggs for a week before. I would do it with working class angst.

[SuzanneT]

I was saddened by the news that the Swedish House Mafia may be breaking up. This sent me into deep depression and I ended up crying in a dark room (It was during the day, so I had to put blankets on the windows as my blinds were not blocking all the light). While searching the internets for materials of an adult nature, I was lead to a video of my new favourite dj...Paris Hilton. My faith in humanity has been restored.

Haha @ hand in the air and yapping on the mic while new song comes in. Look Ma, no hands!

[DaveR]

Haha @ hand in the air and yapping on the mic while new song comes in. Look Ma, no hands!

putting in major flag work too

[House]

Agreed, i'de eat eggs for a week before. I would do it with working class angst.

Lol @ "working class angst"

And, yes, she is a ridiculous band wagon jumper.

[JMJ]

putting in major flag work too

She really loves Brazil.....JMJ

[Sal Paradise]

Deadmau5 speaks on why no DJ's are doing anything, so stop telling him he's not a DJ.

http://gizmodo.com/5921053/all-djs-a...button-pushers

[DaveR]

Deadmau5 speaks on why no DJ's are doing anything, so stop telling him he's not a DJ.

http://gizmodo.com/5921053/all-djs-a...button-pushers

"… so no beatmatching skill required. "beatmatching" isn't even a fucking skill as far as I'm concered anyway. So what, you can count to 4. Cool. I had that skill down when i was 3, so don't give me that argument please."

[SuzanneT]

putting in half-assed flag work too

Fixed. The flagging was a lil limp

[DaveR]

Fixed. The flagging was a lil limp

My flag wasn't

[Myron]

Deadmau5 speaks on why no DJ's are doing anything, so stop telling him he's not a DJ.

http://gizmodo.com/5921053/all-djs-a...button-pushers

Good link.

[martino]

ok, you had me on the edge with this, but I read on anyhow in the hopes you would validate this notion. And you did, until...

As if you and the other "real DJs" are somehow aligned in some coalition of integrity.

As if whatever the music is called connotes degrees of realness. House = really real. EDM = potentially real, depending upon who is DJing.

Such bullshit, dawg.

All this scenespeak...fuckin' Orwellianesque scenespeak...does it allow folks in? Or does it SEGREGATE? Segregation along lines of...what...CULTURE? Always creating tribes? Always hating? Your first sentence out the gate suggests hate is justified "to a degree". Well Martino, as cool as I've found you over the years, who sets those degrees of hate, Hm? Whose agenda does the hate fit?

You know, when we allowed you honkies to make it out of our hood with our white labels and we let y'all into our parties, we didn't think you'd eventually run off and form FACTIONS for the purpose of protecting and defending your purist notions of shit y'all stole from us. We just shared a feeling.

See what I did there?

If you want to get serious about it, and really defend positions, we can go deep on justified hate, can't we? When will all of you admit you didn't have the scene you thought you had? Before there was EDM, there was 'pump up the jam'. Just sayin'.

If you're going to criticize, do so on the merits. If you're going to judge, do so according to the facts. Hate is never justified, and being cynical about another's success kills the chances for your own.

I appreciate you challenging my remarks. You pose very serious questions and I can't argue with your last sentence at all.

But, can we get deep about justified hate? Here on the DHP? Yeah probably. Maybe I shouldn't be so flippant about this whole subject. Me being a white italian canadian makes me less sensitive when it comes to cultural co-option/theft, as my culture wrote the book on that practice... so I probably glazed right over that big picture... And i guess that's really what it comes down to at the end of the day?

Who sets the degrees of hate and for whose agenda? You got me. That's a very slippery slope right there, and one that I probably will lose all authority to comment on at a certain point in the discussion.

I don't need to criticize the merits of fake djing. We're all dj's here. That part is a no brainer. And we can all judge on the fact that her not being a DJ, yet is faking it might be offensive for those that practiced their whole lives and will never get as much $$ as her in that single gig as they will in their whole djing life. I'm personally not offended by that, as I'm not really a DJ.

I called out our own scene's integrity right off the bat (and am one of the few that constantly does based on technical musical criteria). I did comment that we're all in this shit together - that the more people being exposed to any form of electronic dance music could be good for other less commercial styles of it... like the stuff that gets played here. So you're right in calling me out, because the hate part really has no bearing then if that's the case.

With that said, I'm not totally against elitism (factions/tribes are a side effect to elitism) in art. When motivated by the right criteria, excellence and their by-product of elitism should be a competitive and inspiring force. Again, your point about who sets the criteria and to what agenda plays a big and potentially dangerous part. But, while hate has no place when looking at a piece of garbage, one can critique why they feel it is garbage.

You're right about hate and cynicism towards someone else's success weakening us. I'll add that the embracing of successfully pushed garbage doesn't help a cultural artistic movement either.

[DaBownca]

I didn't read any posts protecting her honor or her talent (or lack thereof). In fact, the implication of Danny's initial posting is that Paris Hilton has little talent

Anyways...

I'd still smash it because talented djs are tenth on my list of party requisites

n/m

[DUBFLY]

Haha @ hand in the air and yapping on the mic while new song comes in. Look Ma, no hands!

BWHAHAHA...OMG ..It's official the game has changed cuz dat shit totally fucked me up and she did that shit with no shame in her game...lololol

[Daniel, Grand Duke of Stony Island]

I appreciate you challenging my remarks. You pose very serious questions and I can't argue with your last sentence at all.

But, can we get deep about justified hate? Here on the DHP? Yeah probably. Maybe I shouldn't be so flippant about this whole subject. Me being a white italian canadian makes me less sensitive when it comes to cultural co-option/theft, as my culture wrote the book on that practice... so I probably glazed right over that big picture... And i guess that's really what it comes down to at the end of the day?

Who sets the degrees of hate and for whose agenda? You got me. That's a very slippery slope right there, and one that I probably will lose all authority to comment on at a certain point in the discussion.

I don't need to criticize the merits of fake djing. We're all dj's here. That part is a no brainer. And we can all judge on the fact that her not being a DJ, yet is faking it might be offensive for those that practiced their whole lives and will never get as much $$ as her in that single gig as they will in their whole djing life. I'm personally not offended by that, as I'm not really a DJ.

I called out our own scene's integrity right off the bat (and am one of the few that constantly does based on technical musical criteria). I did comment that we're all in this shit together - that the more people being exposed to any form of electronic dance music could be good for other less commercial styles of it... like the stuff that gets played here. So you're right in calling me out, because the hate part really has no bearing then if that's the case.

With that said, I'm not totally against elitism (factions/tribes are a side effect to elitism) in art. When motivated by the right criteria, excellence and their by-product of elitism should be a competitive and inspiring force. Again, your point about who sets the criteria and to what agenda plays a big and potentially dangerous part. But, while hate has no place when looking at a piece of garbage, one can critique why they feel it is garbage.

You're right about hate and cynicism towards someone else's success weakening us. I'll add that the embracing of successfully pushed garbage doesn't help a cultural artistic movement either.

Thanks for replying man. I'm sure it goes without saying that I find you to be on point with yours. I just rely upon the ideal that those who know better, do better. Part of that is finally moving beyond the right to criticize and move into the right to evolve.

An example: a cat I know and his wife, some years ago, adopted a black baby (themselves not black). It worked out for them and decided to go for another. A cat representing himself as the unknown father of the recent adoption contested it on grounds that neither he nor race was considered in the process. He cited all this kind of crackpot pseudo black history and represented himself as a Moor and moorish. Caused the guy and his wife months and thousands. The adoption goes through and, first thing the guy I know does is go on about how he finally beat this 'Moorish Asshole". Everyone else piles on - "Yeah! Down with the moorish asshole!" When I paused the party to explain to this cat how, for most educated cats, moor = black, and how a white guy holding 2 black sons gloating over some black asshole wasn't a good look, I was the one spoiling the celebration.

When I tried to hip him to what he didn't know about black history, he told me, "After all this time and money, I think I have the right." Dig what I mean? His own kids are Moorish by the definition used to attempt the prevention of their adoption, yet this guy's stress and despair prevented him from seeing how ironic and superficially careless he was being. When he realizes its his responsibility to teach his adopted sons black history even if he himself isn't black, how's he gonna feel when we get to the Anhuiser-Busch Black History Month calendar with the Moorish kings 'n shit.

How are you cats gonna feel when you're paid thousands to open for some celeb DJ?

My point: we never have the right to run down, demean or be cynical about another's station from which they dwell and progress because it creates the walls that causes we ourselves to be nearsighted. We may be tired and frustrated and disenheartened, but the first step in surrendering to despair is minimizing others who we judge to be less worthy than we. I learned this from experience at a point I admit may have been too late for me to be a bigger man in the face of past circumstances. Time will tell.

If this DJ shit wasn't serious to all the DJs here, we wouldn't show up daily, discussing other shit while we wait for more relevant music topics to surface. At what point will we be evolved enough to allow others their experience while we demand more of our own? That point will be put further and further off should we continue to scoff and ridicule those more successful and exposed than we.

We never have the right if we're going to rise. That's all I'm sayin'.

[DaveR]

... the first step in surrendering to despair is minimizing others who we judge to be less worthy than we ...

... At what point will we be evolved enough to allow others their experience while we demand more of our own? That point will be put further and further off should we continue to scoff and ridicule those more successful and exposed than we ...

[martino]

Thanks for replying man. I'm sure it goes without saying that I find you to be on point with yours. I just rely upon the ideal that those who know better, do better. Part of that is finally moving beyond the right to criticize and move into the right to evolve.

An example: a cat I know and his wife, some years ago, adopted a black baby (themselves not black). It worked out for them and decided to go for another. A cat representing himself as the unknown father of the recent adoption contested it on grounds that neither he nor race was considered in the process. He cited all this kind of crackpot pseudo black history and represented himself as a Moor and moorish. Caused the guy and his wife months and thousands. The adoption goes through and, first thing the guy I know does is go on about how he finally beat this 'Moorish Asshole". Everyone else piles on - "Yeah! Down with the moorish asshole!" When I paused the party to explain to this cat how, for most educated cats, moor = black, and how a white guy holding 2 black sons gloating over some black asshole wasn't a good look, I was the one spoiling the celebration.

When I tried to hip him to what he didn't know about black history, he told me, "After all this time and money, I think I have the right." Dig what I mean? His own kids are Moorish by the definition used to attempt the prevention of their adoption, yet this guy's stress and despair prevented him from seeing how ironic and superficially careless he was being. When he realizes its his responsibility to teach his adopted sons black history even if he himself isn't black, how's he gonna feel when we get to the Anhuiser-Busch Black History Month calendar with the Moorish kings 'n shit.

How are you cats gonna feel when you're paid thousands to open for some celeb DJ?

My point: we never have the right to run down, demean or be cynical about another's station from which they dwell and progress because it creates the walls that causes we ourselves to be nearsighted. We may be tired and frustrated and disenheartened, but the first step in surrendering to despair is minimizing others who we judge to be less worthy than we. I learned this from experience at a point I admit may have been too late for me to be a bigger man in the face of past circumstances. Time will tell.

If this DJ shit wasn't serious to all the DJs here, we wouldn't show up daily, discussing other shit while we wait for more relevant music topics to surface. At what point will we be evolved enough to allow others their experience while we demand more of our own? That point will be put further and further off should we continue to scoff and ridicule those more successful and exposed than we.

We never have the right if we're going to rise. That's all I'm sayin'.

It does go without saying. That's why i had no qualms with you calling me to question. I understood right away that you were speaking from a different level right away, and see it further with the anecdote of the adopting father. I hope your friend appreciated you hipping him to that point. I had a friend do something similar for me as well. Embarrassing in the moment to be called out on your ignorance, but was very appreciated shortly there after.

Your final paragraph is very well put. Can't add anything to that!