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    Why I love America

    We live in a great country

    I am thrilled by our freedoms and our short memories

    What warms my heart is that today, in Colorado, someone will walk into a gun store and buy as many firearms as they wish and have to present nothing more than a drivers license and a pulse in order to complete the sale

    God bless the United States of America
    As for the charges against me, I am unconcerned. I am beyond their timid lying morality, and so I am beyond caring.

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    More than 6,000 rounds of ammunition were also purchased online- God Bless you, and God Bless the United States of America

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    In God We Trust.. the 2nd Amendment Right.

    Quote "freedom law, it's the 2nd amendment. We all have that right, why are people fighting what's been around for over 200 years" ?
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    The debate is coming back...

    What do you US fellows think should be done?

    What comes first to my mind is "why should a -regular- citizen own a gun?"


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    The "right to bear arms" is in the constitution, its a political platform, the NRA will denounce acts of violence against innocent people, but continue to pump money into candidacies that promote their right to own weapons...........

    An individual with no criminal background can walk into a gun shop and purchase a weapon with no questions asked.......

    This dude purchased four seperate firearms at different intervals over a two month period, any level of purchase oversight would have flagged this IMO, but hey, gun owners have rights too...........GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

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    Background checks. Registration. Trigger locks. Education. Limitations on yearly purchases.

    The right to bear arms is a right which I support. However, their should be limitations. No concealed carry. Stringent limitations on handguns.
    As for the charges against me, I am unconcerned. I am beyond their timid lying morality, and so I am beyond caring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Buddy Love Show View Post
    Background checks. Registration. Trigger locks. Education. Limitations on yearly purchases.

    The right to bear arms is a right which I support. However, their should be limitations. No concealed carry. Stringent limitations on handguns.
    There are countless people who shoot for sport and own firearms responsibly, the argument for a safer way to own weapons has been made on countless occassions, unfortunately, there will always be a climate of people who will make poor decisions about the utilization of guns, and the aftermath burns in society for a lifetime...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by the crackhouse View Post
    The debate is coming back...

    What do you US fellows think should be done?

    What comes first to my mind is "why should a -regular- citizen own a gun?"


    Idance
    I'm not saying this is one of those times but sometimes nothing can or could've been done to prevent someone from doing sick shish like this. Do you start from jump and make citizens take parenting classes before having kids? Get supper strict on bullying in school, ban all violent cartoons, video games, movies books? Require psych evaluations to get health insurance. Sounds ridiculous but where one one stop and start in pointing to what must be done to prevent a guy from flipping out.

    Its only a debate when white folks in small "everyday" towns get killed by otherwise "normal" people. Been an epidemic of gun violence in Chicago (over 400 gunshot murders so far) since the weather warmed. Not one discussion of gun control, not one speech by our Pres. It is sadly acceptable in the hood. Folks have become desensitized to these kind of stories in urban areas but a life is a life be it Chicago, Philly or Colorado. In regards to debate, Chicago has some of the strictest guns laws and its doing nothing.

    Maybe if more regular citizens owned the numbers would be different, and so starts the debate lol. Assuming dudes house wasn't rigged with explosives that one could buy from the local hardware store how do we address that?

    Sick people will be sick people and will find a way to carry out that sickness on the innocent one way or the other. We could argue easy legal gun access (in some states) makes it that much easier carry out these crimes but its naive to assume if it wasn't a gun it wouldn't be something else. There have been 27 stabbing deaths this year already for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvdphse View Post
    I'm not saying this is one of those times but sometimes nothing can or could've been done to prevent someone from doing sick shish like this. Do you start from jump and make citizens take parenting classes before having kids? Get supper strict on bullying in school, ban all violent cartoons, video games, movies books? Require psych evaluations to get health insurance. Sounds ridiculous but where one one stop and start in pointing to what must be done to prevent a guy from flipping out.

    Its only a debate when white folks in small "everyday" towns get killed by otherwise "normal" people. Been an epidemic of gun violence in Chicago (over 400 gunshot murders so far) since the weather warmed. Not one discussion of gun control, not one speech by our Pres. It is sadly acceptable in the hood. Folks have become desensitized to these kind of stories in urban areas but a life is a life be it Chicago, Philly or Colorado. In regards to debate, Chicago has some of the strictest guns laws and its doing nothing.

    Maybe if more regular citizens owned the numbers would be different, and so starts the debate lol. Assuming dudes house wasn't rigged with explosives that one could buy from the local hardware store how do we address that?

    Sick people will be sick people and will find a way to carry out that sickness on the innocent one way or the other. We could argue easy legal gun access (in some states) makes it that much easier carry out these crimes but its naive to assume if it wasn't a gun it wouldn't be something else. There have been 27 stabbing deaths this year already for example.

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    While it's way harder to obtain firearms over here, recently - and despite our comparably low rate of gun violence - there has been a lot of debate about prohibiting keeping guns (mostly hunting and sporting) in private homes, and setting up public armories for storage instead. Over the past few years we've had a number of prominent situations and tragedies in schools, and people are getting really disturbed about the idea of kids having too easy access to their fathers' hunting rifles.

    There is no constitution in any of Europe that allows us to bear arms to enforce the right of personal self defence on any scale comparable to the U.S.. I understand the significance and importance of the 2nd. Amendment in historic and cultural terms..............................

    ..............................but unless there is a massive, fundamental paradigm change within American society about the right to bear arms, these occurences are going to happen again, and they are going to increase, and they are going to escalate.

    It's a game. There are rules. If the rules aren't changed, the game is going to continue, and the stakes will be raised bit by bit for all. And it's a matter of choice. A choice in a place where people have more choices than anywhere else on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Buddy Love Show View Post
    Background checks. Registration. Trigger locks. Education. Limitations on yearly purchases.
    and (as I've said before) "determent" e.g. If convicted of a felony crime that involves you discharging a firearm, get both hands cut off at the wrist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Buddy Love Show View Post

    The right to bear arms is a right which I support.
    Just curious, why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Jefferson View Post
    Just curious, why?
    I guess to protect your ass from idiots thats trying to take your shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj-chefron View Post
    I guess to protect your ass from idiots thats trying to take your shit.

    To protect your ass from idiots trying to take your shit with a gun.


    It's a flawed premise.

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    I'm not on no right wing Armageddon stuff but I think the reason some see the 2nd amdt as outdated and useless in these times is shish here with our gov't, as bad as some claim really isn't that bad.

    In other words, we as citizens ain't pissed enough (or motivated) to even consider revolution. The idea of taking up arms against the gov't seems absurd at best. We look at a civilian uprising in Syria or Egypt and think thats them, the same way we used to look at large scale terrorist attacks as "over there" as well.

    Our whole country is a double edged sword. The same ideals, habits, thoughts, customs and ways that make us (IMO) the greatest country in the world are the same exact things that makes us have some of the most F'd up ways as well.

    Peeps will compare what and how other countries do things so much better than us but who does it on and for such a large scale with such a mix of citizen?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngeso View Post
    To protect your ass from idiots trying to take your shit with a gun.


    It's a flawed premise.
    I agree but have you heard of John Wayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj-chefron View Post
    I agree but have you heard of John Wayne
    Wayne... Wasn't he the old school white gangsta guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvdphse View Post

    Our whole country is a double edged sword. The same ideals, habits, thoughts, customs and ways that make us (IMO) the greatest country in the world are the same exact things that makes us have some of the most F'd up ways as well.
    This is very close to how I see the US, fredoom... Is it a good thing for idiots, greedies and morons of all types?

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    This......sad to say it's true.

    Its only a debate when white folks in small "everyday" towns get killed by otherwise "normal" people. Been an epidemic of gun violence in Chicago (over 400 gunshot murders so far) since the weather warmed. Not one discussion of gun control, not one speech by our Pres. It is sadly acceptable in the hood. Folks have become desensitized to these kind of stories in urban areas but a life is a life be it Chicago, Philly or Colorado. In regards to debate, Chicago has some of the strictest guns laws and its doing nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj-chefron View Post
    I agree but have you heard of John Wayne


    Way ahead of you. Like I said earlier: I understand the significance of the 2nd. America was a vast, wild, sparsely populated and even more sparsely policed place, with all kinds of miscreants, outlaws and injuns raiding the outlying homestead. The right to bear arms is a law that was instituted to protect the frontier (i.e. the idea of it as the nucleus of American identity). Two centuries on the frontier is now the inner city, the shopping mall, your local high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Jefferson View Post
    Just curious, why?
    I'm not interested in relinquishing the capability to defend myself against enemies; both foreign and domestic. I'm also not interested in submitting myself to the tyranny of evil men. Lastly, a rifle is a tool that puts meat on ones table and establishes sovereignty over the beasts of the land.
    As for the charges against me, I am unconcerned. I am beyond their timid lying morality, and so I am beyond caring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Buddy Love Show View Post
    Lastly, a rifle is a tool that puts meat on ones table and establishes sovereignty over the beasts of the land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Buddy Love Show View Post
    a rifle is a tool that puts meat on ones table and establishes sovereignty over the beasts of the land.
    Is this really still a reality in 2012? We've settled and populated most of our land. There is not much wilderness left in this country, at least compared to days of old. Not many people are actually feeding themselves out of necessity on meat they have hunted. Isn't it safe to say that the vast majority of hunting at this point is for sport?

    I believe we should have the right to bare arms. I think we should be able to hunt. But bans on assault rifles and semi automatic weapons seems like a no brainer. Longer wait periods when purchasing a gun and so on also seem like a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Paradise View Post
    Is this really still a reality in 2012? We've settled and populated most of our land. There is not much wilderness left in this country, at least compared to days of old. Not many people are actually feeding themselves out of necessity on meat they have hunted. Isn't it safe to say that the vast majority of hunting at this point is for sport?

    I believe we should have the right to bare arms. I think we should be able to hunt. But bans on assault rifles and semi automatic weapons seems like a no brainer. Longer wait periods when purchasing a gun and so on also seem like a good idea.
    There are vast areas of wilderness in America which most urban dwellers know nothing about. I don't know the stats on the disposal of the kill, however it's my belief that most game hunters hunt for the meat. I ate venison three times this year that was taken here in NY. (I have many friends that hunt)

    Additionally, "semi-auto" is a term that's not understood by most people. These firearms only fire one round per trigger pull. The automation is in how the cartridge is chambered and ejected
    As for the charges against me, I am unconcerned. I am beyond their timid lying morality, and so I am beyond caring.

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