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    NOTE - We are reposting this article in light of the death of its author in a hit and run accident in Phoenix on June 16, 2003. It was first published September 1, 2002.

    By Brian Downing Quig

    After turning on my TV to see the burning tower after the first plane hit the WORLD TRADE CENTER my attention was arrested like all others. When the second plane hit the second tower I said to myself WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE?

    When the 3rd hijacked plane hit the PENTAGON, the first witnesses reported the "plane circled the PENTAGON in a sharply banked 270 degree turn that was distinctly different than any commercial plane and more like a military plane" and bypassed a straight in shot at the offices of the JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF only to hit an insignificant spot in the back of the PENTAGON.

    I said to myself then, IT IS NOT A REAL TERRORIST ATTACK!! THANK GOD!! One hour after the second plane hit a CIA analyst on ABC announced that it was Osama bin Laden who was behind the attacks!

    When on the first day I saw it announced that terrorists left a flight manual for the BOEING 757 written in Arabic in their rental car parked at LOGAN AIRPORT I said THIS LOOKS LIKE PLANTED EVIDENCE REMINISCENT OF THE FAKED PHOTO OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD WITH THE RIFLE USED TO KILL THE PRESIDENT IN ONE HAD AND THE COMMUNIST NEWSPAPERS IN THE OTHER THAT WAS USED TO CONVICT OSWALD IN THE MINDS OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.

    When the passport of the alleged lead terror pilot, Mohammed Atta, was found in 2 feet of rubble 2 blocks from the WTC I said WHO DO THEY EXPECT TO BELIEVE THAT!!

    Then they expected us to believe that Atta packed a bag for his suicide flight and by some good fortune it did not make his flight. To top it all off the baggage contained a suicide note. Then bin Laden makes a confession on video tape and leaves the tape where it is found. And the gullible American public buys it all primarily because it is unchallenged by the entire mass media!!

    I can now give 25 compelling reasons to indict Daddy Bush, Cheney, the PENTAGON and the CARLYLE GROUP for the real terror behind 911. Daddy Bush and Cheney were in the SITUATION ROOM at the WHITE HOUSE during the terror attacks (during the 34 minutes between the second WTC hit and the PENTAGON hit while a stand down order was issued to the AIR FORCE to supersede established intercept procedures for planes that stray off course).

    Junior Bush was reading stories to grade school children during the attacks. He knew one plane had crashed into the WTC when the reading started. When his top aid Andrew Card whispered in his ear about the second plane hitting the WTC this was caught on videotape and is widely available on the internet. Junior Bush only looks up and nods and then goes back to reading stories to the kids for 25 more minutes!! It clearly looks more like Card is informing Bush of an expected event. There was for example no time for Card to add AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER HIJACKED PLANES IN THE AIR.

    The Director of the WHITE HOUSE SITUATION ROOM where all military crises are managed is with Junior Bush at the grade school. At the end of the 25 minutes of reading Bush goes immediately to the library of the school where a press conference was set. He says there I CALLED MY VICE PRESIDENT AND MY FBI DIRECTOR AND THE GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK. This was a lie!! There was not enough time for that.

    It takes $5 million to make the minimum investment in CARLYLE GROUP, the defense contractor investment group whose stock has gone up 37% since 911. The friends of Bush and Cheney are the other investors in CARLYLE GROUP along with the bin Ladens and John Major. CARLYLE GROUP was having their international investors conference in Washington D.C. at the RITZ CARLETON at the exact time of the 911 attacks. CARLYLE GROUP had a big interest in BIOPORT a company that was the sole source of ANTHRAX VACCINE for the PENTAGON.

    BIOPORT gave Admiral Crowe, the former Chairman of the JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF a 27% interest in the company for his pull with the PENTAGON. Do I have to connect all the dots regarding the ANTHRAX ATTACK that was traced to US military sources?

    It was widely reported by THE NEW YORK TIMES Feb. 17, 2002, MSNBC Oct. 7, 2001 and others that Pakistani ISI Chief, General Mahmud,wire transferred $100,000 to alleged lead terror pilot Mohammed Atta the week before the terror attacks. At the exact moment of the terror attacks Mahmud was having breakfast with the chairmen of the HOUSE (Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla) and SENATE (Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla) INTELLIGENCE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES along with my senator Jon Kyl. I will have words with Kyl at the next opportunity. The $100,000 was sufficient to remove Mahmud from office but not enough for the light to go on in the brains of our top US intelligence officials!!

    Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, and others were told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October. In an exercise, called Operation "Swift Sword" planned for four years, 23,000 British troops were on their way to Oman the day before the attacks. These troops were the ones used to assist the Americans in the Afghan invasion. At the same time two U.S. carrier battle groups arrived on station in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast. Also at the same time, some 17,000 U.S. troops join more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation "Bright Star." All of these forces were in place before the first plane hit the WTC!

    Dan Hopsicker found plenty of CIA connections to the flight school in Venice Florida where Atta and others trained and much more of this nature

    http://www.madcowprod.com/archive.htm">http://www.madcowprod.com/archive .htm</A>

    Ariel Sharon canceled his address to ISRAELI support groups in NEW YORK CITY just the day before his scheduled 9-11 address. The 120 Israeli art student spy ring active in the UNITED STATES before 911 had a group living on the same street just 3 blocks form Mohammed Atta. US intelligence and US media had no interest in this ring or the 2 Israelis who were disarmed in the Mexican congress with guns and explosives and fake Pakistani passports at a time when the congress was not going along with Fox's support for the Bush invasion of Afghanistan.

    Those who consider it unthinkable that the UNITED STATES government and the ISRAELI government would fake a terror attack killing thousands to initiate a war to benefit those controlling these governments should listen to the sound track of the LOSS OF LIBERTY

    (Direct link for download:

    http://thewebfairy.com/liberty/liberty.rm">http://thewebfairy.com/libert y/liberty.rm</A> ) It

    will take 2 hours to download with a 56k modem but it is worth it. This is the account of how the 1967 WAR was started wherein all the Palestinian lands now in occupation were taken and how Israel tried to sink an American ship and blame it on the Egyptians. The US government was clearly a party to this infamy!!

    In my search for the best evidence of fake 911 terror I have found a great deal. As far as stand alone evidence, the capability of the BOEING 757 and BOEING 767 to take off and land by computer alone is the most compelling. These planes are fully capable of being remotely piloted which is what happened during the terror attacks. Each of the four hijacked planes had 6 hidden panic alerts for just such events that were known to the flight crew. NONE OF THEM WERE ACTIVATED!! The alleged terrorists were the equivalent of Lee Harvey Oswalds --- patsies lured into place to take the blame. Our FBI has made no effort to reconcile their initial list of terrorists with the real people with those identities shown to be alive in the Middle East!!

    The overall plan to send operatives to the US and have them train to fly commercial aircraft at single engine flight schools is a very doubtful affair. Real terrorists financed by bin Laden's billion dollars would have already been trained pilots quickly infiltrated shortly before the operation. In secret operations like this time is the great terminator. One of the alleged pilots trained at a single engine flight school in Phoenix that I once attended. One day a year WILLIAMS AIR FORCE BASE opened their flight simulators to the public. Their simulators were on hydraulic lifters with switches to day and night flight as well as various aircraft. I used to consider myself lucky when I could crash the F-16 on the runway. Usually I did not do that well! For any terror master to bet the farm on such a dubious plan would be unthinkable. But fooling the gullible American public is a far easier prospect.

    The software of the BOEING 757 and 767 over rides pilot error and will not let a pilot make banking turns like the PENTAGON plane which was pulling 5 Gs at its final approach or the second WTC plane that was pulling 3 Gs. This is the most fruitful area to explore for those wishing positive proof that the terror attacks were faked.

    The American public has no concept of how the entire broadcast industry is monolithically controlled --- all offering the same lies at the same time. There are 6 corporate groups that own all of the newspapers in America. The last time the senate examined the corporate ownership of the broadcast industry was 1970 when they issued a report showing an enormous crime in progress. A handful of international banks were illegally usurping corporate control of the entire broadcast industry in the UNITED STATES

    http://www.dcia.com/disclosure.html It has only gotten much worse since then.

    There is an ISRAELI WAR LOBBY numbering in the thousands beating the drum for war totally unchallenged on TV. They are not registered as agents of a foreign government as law requires. In the news media they fill the ranks of the very most prominent, like Ted Kopple, George Will, Mort Kondrakie, Wolf Blitzer and Billy Kristol.

    The ambitions of the Bush administration go far beyond getting the Afghan pipeline to move the $350 billion of central Asian oil. They are pressing for full-scale war where more is destroyed in a day than is produced in an entire year of peace. From the business standpoint WAR IS THE ULTIMATE CONSUMER!! [img]AR15firing.gif[/img] [img]AR15firing.gif[/img]
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    You keep sellin' this, friend, but nobody's buying.

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    Originally posted by DJ 138:
    You keep sellin' this, friend, but nobody's buying.
    keep selling what? I dont even post here regulary...

    explain?
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    Originally posted by DJ Omar Herrera:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
    You keep sellin' this, friend, but nobody's buying.
    keep selling what? I dont even post here regulary...

    explain?
    </font>[/QUOTE]I was under the impression that it was you who had posted these conspiracy theories here before. If I have you mistaken with another poster, please forgive me.

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    Originally posted by DJ 138:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Omar Herrera:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
    You keep sellin' this, friend, but nobody's buying.
    keep selling what? I dont even post here regulary...

    explain?
    </font>[/QUOTE]I was under the impression that it was you who had posted these conspiracy theories here before. If I have you mistaken with another poster, please forgive me.
    </font>[/QUOTE]I have posted topics on this before. but as far as conspiracy theories go I just put info up so that people can make there own opinions.

    But do you really believe everything you are told from main stream media, you can always do your own research.... It might just enlighten you to what is really going on.

    All that is posted in the article above can be verified....

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    I have yet to read it in entirety but I thank U for posting it from what I have.......(hey nice first name too).....

    Yeah, most Americans are just too bright! They feed on the Mass Press like a maggot feeds on debris.....

    What channel is shaping your thoughts and discussion is a great question to ask most?
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    one man's verifiable truth is another man's conspiracy theory.

    The above posting is, by the way, the DEFINITION of a conspiracy theory. It is a theory regarding a vast conspiracy.

    [ June 25, 2003, 03:35 PM: Message edited by: DJ 138 ]

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    Originally posted by Hk:
    I have yet to read it in entirety but I thank U for posting it from what I have.......(hey nice first name too).....

    Yeah, most Americans are just too bright! They feed on the Mass Press like a maggot feeds on debris.....

    What channel is shaping your thoughts and discussion is a great question to ask most?
    Yeah I like my name too.....

    I read a book called the 11th Plague which is what has fueled the energy to find out what is really happening in the world.

    The book is about the US gov't/millitary testing that has been going on for some time on its own population.
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    Originally posted by DJ 138:
    one man's verifiable truth is another man's conspiracy theory.

    The above posting is, by the way, the DEFINITION of a conspiracy theory. It is a theory regarding a vast conspiracy.
    I stand corrected. You are right....
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    The goverment has us trained. We believe everything they tell us.

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    Originally posted by DJ 138:
    one man's verifiable truth is another man's conspi racy theory.

    The above posting is, by the way, the DEFINITION of a conspiracy theory. It is a theory regarding a vast conspiracy.
    but what then is the fodder we watch on cnn but conspiracy theories. how can we know for sure that what is presented to us is actually true, aside from the most visually obvious.

    i find it interesting that people place a great deal of faith on a system of government that has a very bad historical record in terms of its treatment of its citizens. why would somebody hungry for power care about the common man? do people actually believe that high official positions in gov & big business are achieved through honest means, that capitalism is a system where there is an even playing field and the interests & well being of one another is first & foremost?

    thanks for the links Omar.
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    Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
    one man's verifiable truth is another man's conspi racy theory.

    The above posting is, by the way, the DEFINITION of a conspiracy theory. It is a theory regarding a vast conspiracy.
    but what then is the fodder we watch on cnn but conspiracy theories. how can we know for sure that what is presented to us is actually true, aside from the most visually obvious.

    i find it interesting that people place a great deal of faith on a system of government that has a very bad historical record in terms of its treatment of its citizens. why would somebody hungry for power care about the common man? do people actually believe that high official positions in gov & big business are achieved through honest means, that capitalism is a system where there is an even playing field and the interests & well being of one another is first & foremost?

    thanks for the links Omar.
    </font>[/QUOTE]You are welcome. You hit it on the nail. Thanks!

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    Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
    but what then is the fodder we watch on cnn but conspiracy theories. how can we know for sure that what is presented to us is actually true, aside from the most visually obvious.
    which makes my point about one man's truth...


    Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:

    do people actually believe that high official positions in gov & big business are achieved through honest means, that capitalism is a system where there is an even playing field and the interests & well being of one another is first & foremost?
    I hope to god nobody believes that.

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    Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
    one man's verifiable truth is another man's conspi racy theory.

    The above posting is, by the way, the DEFINITION of a conspiracy theory. It is a theory regarding a vast conspiracy.
    but what then is the fodder we watch on cnn but conspiracy theories. how can we know for sure that what is presented to us is actually true, aside from the most visually obvious.

    i find it interesting that people place a great deal of faith on a system of government that has a very bad historical record in terms of its treatment of its citizens. why would somebody hungry for power care about the common man? do people actually believe that high official positions in gov & big business are achieved through honest means, that capitalism is a system where there is an even playing field and the interests & well being of one another is first & foremost?

    thanks for the links Omar.
    </font>[/QUOTE]What troubles me the most is how many Americans no longer think for themselves...and that they actually seem to like having the thinking done for them. People I experience in daily life, at work or wherever, no longer seel out information on their, and everyone seems to have the same opnions and viewpoints on almost everything. If one differs in anyway, one is considered strange or the new one, 'unpatriotic'. What this country was founded on has been completely thrown out.

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    thanks for the links Omar. [/qb][/QUOTE]What troubles me the most is how many Americans no longer think for themselves...and that they actually seem to like having the thinking done for them. People I experience in daily life, at work or wherever, no longer seel out information on their, and everyone seems to have the same opnions and viewpoints on almost everything. If one differs in anyway, one is considered strange or the new one, 'unpatriotic'. What this country was founded on has been completely thrown out. [/QB][/QUOTE]

    Very true!!!!!! Whats up Chris. Been a minute since we spoke.
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    Originally posted by DJ 138:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
    but what then is the fodder we watch on cnn but conspiracy theories. how can we know for sure that what is presented to us is actually true, aside from the most visually obvious.
    which makes my point about one man's truth...


    Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:

    do people actually believe that high official positions in gov & big business are achieved through honest means, that capitalism is a system where there is an even playing field and the interests & well being of one another is first & foremost?
    I hope to god nobody believes that.
    </font>[/QUOTE]so we can agree that lies, deceit, fraud, alienation, coverups, conspiracies are necessary skills to possess if one plans on reaping the "full" benefits of the american dream. Bold Soul wrote something in reference to this, i'll try & dig it up.

    do you think people are afraid to give up their comfort zone & can their actions or rather in-actions & re-actions convey this type of behavior? in other words do people believe there is something wrong, but don't question it because they're afraid of a myriad of consequences?
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    Originally posted by DJ Omar Herrera:
    thanks for the links Omar.
    What troubles me the most is how many Americans no longer think for themselves...and that they actually seem to like having the thinking done for them. People I experience in daily life, at work or wherever, no longer seel out information on their, and everyone seems to have the same opnions and viewpoints on almost everything. If one differs in anyway, one is considered strange or the new one, 'unpatriotic'. What this country was founded on has been completely thrown out. [/QB][/QUOTE]

    Very true!!!!!! Whats up Chris. Been a minute since we spoke. [/QB][/QUOTE]

    wassup Omar...everything's cool.

    Our society is set up in such a way that we are very subtly lead into a state in which we are controlled. This is done in many ways, particularly through popular mass media. There is a state of information overload, and we only absord that information which is directly in front of us and fed to us. Our attention spans are kept short by the way the society is set up also. One is kept constantly busy pursuing the 'American dream'. Our attention spans and preception are additionally kept in check by the diet and healthcare that are pushed in this country. People are pumped full of medications that are pushed by doctors that are basically salespeople for the pharmaceutical companies, and push a system of selling pharmaceuticals instead of prevention and healthy living. Our diets consist of processed and fast foods that slow us down and keep us unhealthy and stupid. Most jobs are desk jobs where we sit all day, inactive, and eat fast food for lunch with our coworkers. When we get home, our night are spent taking care of the posessions pushed on us by mass media, that we feel we must have in order to live the 'American dream'. All this contributes to keeping us busy and mentally occupied.

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    Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
    so we can agree that lies, deceit, fraud, alienation, coverups, conspiracies are necessary skills to possess if one plans on reaping the "full" benefits of the american dream.
    Well I never said that. I believe all of thsoe things have occurred and will continue to occurr here and there throughout American history. But there are plenty of people in office, especially lower-rung politicians, that have gotten where they are through legitimate means. Most politicians lie, obviously. Sadly, it is the nature of the game. However, there are big lies and there are little lies. Some conspiarcy theories I'll buy, some I won't. The jury is still out on a great many things.

    Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:

    do you think people are afraid to give up their comfort zone & can their actions or rather in-actions & re-actions convey this type of behavior? in other words do people believe there is something wrong, but don't question it because they're afraid of a myriad of consequences?
    Clearly there are people like that. That fact doesn't make any particular allegation true or untrue.

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    Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
    but what then is the fodder we watch on cnn but conspiracy theories. how can we know for sure that what is presented to us is actually true, aside from the most visually obvious.
    which makes my point about one man's truth...


    Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:

    do people actually believe that high official positions in gov & big business are achieved through honest means, that capitalism is a system where there is an even playing field and the interests & well being of one another is first & foremost?
    I hope to god nobody believes that.
    </font>[/QUOTE]so we can agree that lies, deceit, fraud, alienation, coverups, conspiracies are necessary skills to possess if one plans on reaping the "full" benefits of the american dream. Bold Soul wrote something in reference to this, i'll try & dig it up.

    do you think people are afraid to give up their comfort zone & can their actions or rather in-actions & re-actions convey this type of behavior? in other words do people believe there is something wrong, but don't question it because they're afraid of a myriad of consequences?
    </font>[/QUOTE]Most people now believe that comfort zone is the norm and what one should live up to in life. The system that has been created is not to question the comfort zone. What always gets me is how people always throw in my face that the USA is the 'land of the free' and our troops are in Iraq supposedly 'fighting for our freedoms', yet everyone wants to live the same lifestyle and do the same things, while corporations run our goverment and many if the people shouting freedom do not even know who their local government representatives are.

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    Originally posted by christopher conrad:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
    but what then is the fodder we watch on cnn but conspiracy theories. how can we know for sure that what is presented to us is actually true, aside from the most visually obvious.
    which makes my point about one man's truth...


    Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:

    do people actually believe that high official positions in gov & big business are achieved through honest means, that capitalism is a system where there is an even playing field and the interests & well being of one another is first & foremost?
    I hope to god nobody believes that.
    </font>[/QUOTE]so we can agree that lies, deceit, fraud, alienation, coverups, conspiracies are necessary skills to possess if one plans on reaping the "full" benefits of the american dream. Bold Soul wrote something in reference to this, i'll try & dig it up.

    do you think people are afraid to give up their comfort zone & can their actions or rather in-actions & re-actions convey this type of behavior? in other words do people believe there is something wrong, but don't question it because they're afraid of a myriad of consequences?
    </font>[/QUOTE]Most people now believe that comfort zone is the norm and what one should live up to in life. The system that has been created is not to question the comfort zone. What always gets me is how people always throw in my face that the USA is the 'land of the free' and our troops are in Iraq supposedly 'fighting for our freedoms', yet everyone wants to live the same lifestyle and do the same things, while corporations run our goverment and many if the people shouting freedom do not even know who their local government representatives are.
    </font>[/QUOTE]hey Chris the only thing that's free is the air we breathe & downloading music. given the quality of air as of late, these might be under the christmas tree real soon.









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    Indeed Cosmic Twin thanks for educating....

    Okay 138, you seemed to be at a rival with some of my comments which is cool.....Cosmic Twins words suffice but...question....

    Conspiracy Theory= a mass phrase that has recently been released(say a decade or so) by social scientists and propogandists to confuse, belittle, or disorient any who seek the truth. As though, when one finds counter information to these American crooks, ooooopp scratch that I meant American business men and policy-makers... :D ---plans, it neatly falls under this category so as to efface or cloud the validity of the claim.......

    We both aint buying things today...and that knee-jerk response out of most peoples mouth about conspiracy theories I am not trading in on....

    When Cosmic Twin said "historical" that did it for me.......like the boy who cried wolf, check his record first......and then draw a decision..
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    Originally posted by DJ 138:
    You keep sellin' this, friend, but nobody's buying.
    What do you think about it??

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    It's true: most North Americans will swear by what they read in the paper, or see on TV news. They're sleepwalking through life, for the most part, and their minds are closed to all possibilities but the ones it's most convenient for them to believe.

    But what also troubles me is the hyper-willingness (is that a word?) of people who don't accept the mainstream thought and viewpoint to jump at and accept without question ANYTHING that runs counter to the norm. Sometimes it seems to me that the political counter-culture is as asleep and conformist as its mainstream counterpart. Case in point: Greenpeace, which treats many of its casual employees (telemarketers, event staff) horribly, flouting even the most basic labor laws and rules of fairness. But naw, they're a LEFTY organization -- they wouldn't do that, would they?
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