Gman, why did you remove the Shelter mix?

[MarkK]

I was getting into it yesterday? Tech problems?

Thanks

[blackwax]

I was just gonna listen too it DARN what happen

[imported_Gman]

I was contacted politely by Shelter staff to remove it. They expressed that Timmy's radio mixes were okay to post but not mixes of Timmy live @ the Shelter.

Bad G-man [img]graemlins/spanka.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

-G

[Red D]

Originally posted by Gman:
I was contacted politely by Shelter staff to remove it. They expressed that Timmy's radio mixes were okay to post but not mixes of Timmy live @ the Shelter.

Bad G-man [img]graemlins/spanka.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

-G

Marketing-wise it's a bit daft to remove a mix that's the best promotion you could ask for, for free!
I have a shiny nickle for anyone who can give me a valid reason why they asked this! [img]graemlins/cool_shades.gif[/img]

RD

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Gman:
I was contacted politely by Shelter staff to remove it. They expressed that Timmy's radio mixes were okay to post but not mixes of Timmy live @ the Shelter.

Bad G-man [img]graemlins/spanka.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

-G

Big Brother watches closely heh? ;)

[blackwax]

Aw shucks too bad he should be spreadin the "shelter" sound so all those that do not live in NYC can hear
Just a thought [img]smile.gif[/img]

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Gotta watch out for Timmy's exclusive stuff withing his mixes being bootlegged.

[blackwax]

1 good reason why bootleggin is BAD but thats another thread [img]graemlins/jpshakehead.gif[/img]

[DeesKo]

In my opinion, I would say it comes down to a philosophical standpoint... the one that says if you want to experience Shelter, bring yo ass to Shelter....

... or at the very least www.clubshelter.com

I know they've always felt that way about the other things like shirts etc .... hell, they weren't too fond of the idea of my buying a shirt to being back to VA to give to someone who has been many other times and just couldn't go THAT time....

.... while it mighta not satisfied MY needs, I understand their point and actually applaud them for the stance.

As an artist, a club, a business etc etc I think a lot of it comes down to wanting to be able to control the who, what, where, when and whys when it pertains to how your club is represented to the public.

Of course, who knows... maybe we're all looking way too deep and Timmy R just didn't like that mix and didn't want it floating around the net.

Peace

[richierich]

I'm a believer that if you want a live mix from a club, bring yo ass to the club. The experience is a lot better than listening to a cd. Timmy doesn't need any promotions help he is doing his thing quite nicely. I definitely got me a t-shirt when I was at Shelter @ Vinyl because I liked the whole vibe. This past Saturday there was a cat at the Leroy Burgess party with a Shelter t-shirt on and I asked him did he get it at the club and he jokingly said "No I got it on E-bay. It was Kevin Koga. I say yeah if want the Shelter experience Go to Shelter.
Peace

[ February 27, 2003, 11:01 AM: Message edited by: richierich ]

[Koffy Brown]

but you can buy t-shirts right?

can someone post a pic?

[Mack-Williams]

That's why as soon as you see the mix go up download it. Like I do.

[blackwax]

Deesko some good points there
but there overheads must be alot bigger now. It is a buisness after all so any money made on merchandise etc has too be a good thing from a buisness point of view
as for bring your ass to the club thats not possible for people who live outside of nyc or even usa like myself although i make a "pilgramige" once a year (going next week)

[richierich]

Originally posted by blackwax:
Deesko some good points there
but there overheads must be alot bigger now. It is a buisness after all so any money made on merchandise etc has too be a good thing from a buisness point of view
as for bring your ass to the club thats not possible for people who live outside of nyc or even usa like myself although i make a "pilgramige" once a year (going next week)

Shoooot that one time is an experience of it's own and you'll remember it until you go back. again.

[Raven Fox]

Originally posted by Gman:
I was contacted politely by Shelter staff to remove it. They expressed that Timmy's radio mixes were okay to post but not mixes of Timmy live @ the Shelter.

Bad G-man [img]graemlins/spanka.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

-G

*** I WAS ASKED TO REMOVE THE LINKS TO THE TIMMY REGISFORD AUDIO FROM MY SERVER BY G-MAN (see his message below) ****

You STILL want to hear them though... go to my website
They will be there from now on - including some VERY exclusive stuff in the future - look for the logo.

I have tons of live mixes on DAT and CD from Shelter past and present / video too. I definetly won't let them go to waste. This just makes me want to "Try building up rather than tearing down..."

[img]graemlins/jpshakehead.gif[/img] sounds like some more elitist shit to me - a dayum shame if you ask me.

(((((( control freaks ))))))

> oh yeah - call me a disgruntled ex-employee

[ February 27, 2003, 04:01 PM: Message edited by: Raven Fox ]

[blackwax]

ooohh

[ February 27, 2003, 11:59 AM: Message edited by: blackwax ]

[richierich]

I think that is totally disrespectful. If Timmy or Shelter doesn't want their mixes posted it should be respected. That's like paparazzi taking pictures of someone and the person doesn't even know that they are being photographed and the next thing you know their picture is plastered all over the newspapers. I mean they asked Not to have mixes posted and you post them anyway. Sounds like someone has issues.

[imported_Gman]

Raven, please remove links to Timmy mixes from your post. I do respect all artists wishes.They should have control over their work. They respectfully asked me to remove the mix from my site (which includes the message board). I removed it without thinking twice about it.

-Gerard

[ February 27, 2003, 11:25 AM: Message edited by: Gman ]

[blackwax]

Originally posted by richierich:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by blackwax:
Deesko some good points there
but there overheads must be alot bigger now. It is a buisness after all so any money made on merchandise etc has too be a good thing from a buisness point of view
as for bring your ass to the club thats not possible for people who live outside of nyc or even usa like myself although i make a "pilgramige" once a year (going next week)

Shoooot that one time is an experience of it's own and you'll remember it until you go back. again.</font>[/QUOTE]word last time i went was in 98 for my honeymoon!!!so its etched on my mind for many reasons tooooo long to wait although i have heard timmy in the u.k in november he made me cry (with happiness)

[imported_Gman]

Originally posted by richierich:
I think that is totally disrespectful. If Timmy or Shelter doesn't want their mixes posted it should be respected...

Agreed.

-G

[Raven Fox]

Originally posted by richierich:
I think that is totally disrespectful. If Timmy or Shelter doesn't want their mixes posted it should be respected. That's like paparazzi taking pictures of someone and the person doesn't even know that they are being photographed and the next thing you know their picture is plastered all over the newspapers. I mean they asked Not to have mixes posted and you post them anyway. Sounds like someone has issues.

You know what I say to that... [img]graemlins/tongueout.gif[/img]

Issues? [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

Nobody ever told ME I couldn't post anything streaming from MY server.

AND furthermore - even if they did - I'd tell them where to go.

BTW - G-Man, please let me know if I'm infringing anything on your site. The last thing I want to do is cause any political drama for you between Shelter - Lord knows I have had enough of my own with them.

Peace

[blackwax]

sorry gman and all I got carried away now i feel bad at listnin to the mix you are right if they have asked for it to be removed then i will respect that (it did sound great though) see you all at shelter on the 8th

[Raven Fox]

Originally posted by Gman:
Raven, please remove links to Timmy mixes from your post. I do respect all artists wishes.They should have control over their work. They respectfully asked me to remove the mix from my site (which includes the message board). I removed it without thinking twice about it.

-Gerard

Thats WACK in my book - you removed the links because YOU were "politely" asked to take them down from YOUR server

But it's your site and your wish is granted.

With respect to you and DHP.

Raven

[ February 27, 2003, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: Raven Fox ]

[Tenyu]

there is still a link to a live shelter mix on the page

[Raven Fox]

Originally posted by blackwax:
sorry gman and all I got carried away now i feel bad at listnin to the mix you are right if they have asked for it to be removed then i will respect that (it did sound great though) see you all at shelter on the 8th

Blackwax - you shouldn't feel bad at all.
Once you let them start dictating what you can and can't listen to online - then your freedom has been compromised.

Is this what its coming to?

Please [img]graemlins/jpshakehead.gif[/img]

p.s.

...how many of you have bootlegs in your record bag???? How disrespectful is THAT !!