analog delays

[dynomite8]

What is the primary benefit of using an analog delay as opposed to plug ins? Is it simply a pleasing distortion added similar to tube preamps etc . . . or is there something an analog delay can do that can't properly be mimicked in algorithms?

Just curious since the moogerfooger delay for example runs near $700.

[pipecock]

Originally posted by dynomite8:
What is the primary benefit of using an analog delay as opposed to plug ins? Is it simply a pleasing distortion added similar to tube preamps etc . . . or is there something an analog delay can do that can't properly be mimicked in algorithms?

Just curious since the moogerfooger delay for example runs near $700.

analogue delay just sounds far far better than digital. even the cheap ones. i love my electro harmonix memory man, which is relatively cheap and still sounds WAY better than any digital delay. plus having knobs and whatnot on it, you can actually PLAY the delay like an instrument as opposed to using a dial to set some numbers and then leaving it alone. its an entirely different experience, really. i reccomend you check out analogue delay ASAP........

[O'love]

Originally posted by pipecock:

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Originally posted by dynomite8:
What is the primary benefit of using an analog delay as opposed to plug ins? Is it simply a pleasing distortion added similar to tube preamps etc . . . or is there something an analog delay can do that can't properly be mimicked in algorithms?

Just curious since the moogerfooger delay for example runs near $700.

analogue delay just sounds far far better than digital. even the cheap ones. i love my electro harmonix memory man, which is relatively cheap and still sounds WAY better than any digital delay. plus having knobs and whatnot on it, you can actually PLAY the delay like an instrument as opposed to using a dial to set some numbers and then leaving it alone. its an entirely different experience, really. i reccomend you check out analogue delay ASAP........ [/QUOTE]do yourself a favor: check the RE-201 for the UAD dsp-card ;)

Olaf

[pipecock]

Originally posted by O'love:
do yourself a favor: check the RE-201 for the UAD dsp-card ;)

Olaf

why would i do that when i have a real tape echo as well????

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[O'love]

Originally posted by pipecock:

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Originally posted by O'love:
do yourself a favor: check the RE-201 for the UAD dsp-card ;)

Olaf

why would i do that when i have a real tape echo as well????

;) [/QUOTE]because you can run more than 1 intstance? because you can automate parameters? because it does some things the real thing cannot do?

still, i envy you ;)

Olaf

[dynomite8]

Though it seems ridiculously overpriced, any thoughts on the moogerfooger delay?

I have a minimoog voyager rackmount and I was thinking about getting a few of the other related pieces and a making a modular synth out it.

How does the sound compare to a roland space echo for example?

[pipecock]

Originally posted by dynomite8:
Though it seems ridiculously overpriced, any thoughts on the moogerfooger delay?

I have a minimoog voyager rackmount and I was thinking about getting a few of the other related pieces and a making a modular synth out it.

How does the sound compare to a roland space echo for example?

i havent played with one since no music shops locally stock them and i cant afford to just buy one, but based on how nice my moogerfooger LPF is, id imagine it should be built like a tank and sound fantastic. tape echos sound much noisier than IC based analogue delays like the moogerfooger or other pedal based analogue delays.

[Free Russell]

Though it seems ridiculously overpriced, any thoughts on the moogerfooger delay?

Moog equipment just sounds great, it's that simple; better than most any other hardware available new on the market and comparable to used vintage brands that also sound great. The difference is that the real thing has no sonic compromises-easy to use, sounds good. Period.

The nice thing with the Moogs is that they're new rather than 30 years old, but the older vintage pieces are also reliable if in good condition.

When you get to comparisons between a Space Echo and a Moog you're talking apples and organges-both will sound great but different. You can't lose buying either one, or be willing to buy both to try for a while and sell the one you like less.

If you buy used you can get better prices, or just be patient-the difference in quality will be worth it in the long-run.

[ June 30, 2006, 08:21 PM: Message edited by: Free Russell ]

[dynomite8]

Originally posted by Free Russell:

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Though it seems ridiculously overpriced, any thoughts on the moogerfooger delay?

Moog equipment just sounds great, it's that simple; better than most any other hardware available new on the market and comparable to used vintage brands that also sound great. The difference is that the real thing has no sonic compromises-easy to use, sounds good. Period.

The nice thing with the Moogs is that they're new rather than 30 years old, but the older vintage pieces are also reliable if in good condition.

When you get to comparisons between a Space Echo and a Moog you're talking apples and organges-both will sound great but different. You can't lose buying either one, or be willing to buy both to try for a while and sell the one you like less.

If you buy used you can get better prices, or just be patient-the difference in quality will be worth it in the long-run. [/QUOTE]I agree, always get the highest quality piece within reason even if you have to wait a while to cop it.

Thanks guys! I'll be looking for a good deal on an analog delay unit soon.

[dynomite8]

Originally posted by pipecock:

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Originally posted by dynomite8:
Though it seems ridiculously overpriced, any thoughts on the moogerfooger delay?

I have a minimoog voyager rackmount and I was thinking about getting a few of the other related pieces and a making a modular synth out it.

How does the sound compare to a roland space echo for example?

i havent played with one since no music shops locally stock them and i cant afford to just buy one, but based on how nice my moogerfooger LPF is, id imagine it should be built like a tank and sound fantastic. tape echos sound much noisier than IC based analogue delays like the moogerfooger or other pedal based analogue delays. [/QUOTE]Have you checked out the murf?

[WalterM]

since y'all sound serious about your analog delays, i feel that the legendary echoplex bares mentioning (the original tape delay type, not some cheese 21st century gibson reissue).

http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools...dechoplex.html

http://search.ebay.com/echoplex_W0QQ...sopZ3QQxpufuZx

to help put a sound to the tool if you haven't heard of it, this thing was one of the mainstays of early dub music (king tubby, mad professor, etc)

[Craig Patane]

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Originally posted by dynomite8:
What is the primary benefit of using an analog delay as opposed to plug ins? Is it simply a pleasing distortion added similar to tube preamps etc . . . or is there something an analog delay can do that can't properly be mimicked in algorithms?

Just curious since the moogerfooger delay for example runs near $700.

analogue delay just sounds far far better than digital. even the cheap ones. i love my electro harmonix memory man, which is relatively cheap and still sounds WAY better than any digital delay. plus having knobs and whatnot on it, you can actually PLAY the delay like an instrument as opposed to using a dial to set some numbers and then leaving it alone. its an entirely different experience, really. i reccomend you check out analogue delay ASAP........ [/QUOTE]do yourself a favor: check the RE-201 for the UAD dsp-card ;)

Olaf [/QUOTE]That plugin is awesome!

[Cedric Woo]

Originally posted by Craig Patane:

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Originally posted by dynomite8:
What is the primary benefit of using an analog delay as opposed to plug ins? Is it simply a pleasing distortion added similar to tube preamps etc . . . or is there something an analog delay can do that can't properly be mimicked in algorithms?

Just curious since the moogerfooger delay for example runs near $700.

analogue delay just sounds far far better than digital. even the cheap ones. i love my electro harmonix memory man, which is relatively cheap and still sounds WAY better than any digital delay. plus having knobs and whatnot on it, you can actually PLAY the delay like an instrument as opposed to using a dial to set some numbers and then leaving it alone. its an entirely different experience, really. i reccomend you check out analogue delay ASAP........ [/QUOTE]do yourself a favor: check the RE-201 for the UAD dsp-card ;)

Olaf [/QUOTE]That plugin is awesome! [/QUOTE]Did anyone compare the plugin with the original hardware?
I am also looking to invest in some analog delay/reverb hardware and am thinking seriously about the Roland.
Any feedback on this?

C.

[jordash]

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Originally posted by dynomite8:
What is the primary benefit of using an analog delay as opposed to plug ins? Is it simply a pleasing distortion added similar to tube preamps etc . . . or is there something an analog delay can do that can't properly be mimicked in algorithms?

Just curious since the moogerfooger delay for example runs near $700.

analogue delay just sounds far far better than digital. even the cheap ones. i love my electro harmonix memory man, which is relatively cheap and still sounds WAY better than any digital delay. plus having knobs and whatnot on it, you can actually PLAY the delay like an instrument as opposed to using a dial to set some numbers and then leaving it alone. its an entirely different experience, really. i reccomend you check out analogue delay ASAP........ [/QUOTE]do yourself a favor: check the RE-201 for the UAD dsp-card ;)

Olaf [/QUOTE]That plugin is awesome! [/QUOTE]Did anyone compare the plugin with the original hardware?
I am also looking to invest in some analog delay/reverb hardware and am thinking seriously about the Roland.
Any feedback on this?

C. [/QUOTE]Never heard that UAD...but you cannot go wrong with the Roland space-echo. Very versatile - great sounding reverb as well.
LOVE it. LOVE it. LOVE it. You can even send some to an annoying flat plug-in synth and it will do wonders. Overdrive it and you will hear god. lol... A staple for Dub reggae as well.

[Cedric Woo]

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Originally posted by dynomite8:
What is the primary benefit of using an analog delay as opposed to plug ins? Is it simply a pleasing distortion added similar to tube preamps etc . . . or is there something an analog delay can do that can't properly be mimicked in algorithms?

Just curious since the moogerfooger delay for example runs near $700.

analogue delay just sounds far far better than digital. even the cheap ones. i love my electro harmonix memory man, which is relatively cheap and still sounds WAY better than any digital delay. plus having knobs and whatnot on it, you can actually PLAY the delay like an instrument as opposed to using a dial to set some numbers and then leaving it alone. its an entirely different experience, really. i reccomend you check out analogue delay ASAP........ [/QUOTE]do yourself a favor: check the RE-201 for the UAD dsp-card ;)

Olaf [/QUOTE]That plugin is awesome! [/QUOTE]Did anyone compare the plugin with the original hardware?
I am also looking to invest in some analog delay/reverb hardware and am thinking seriously about the Roland.
Any feedback on this?

C. [/QUOTE]Never heard that UAD...but you cannot go wrong with the Roland space-echo. Very versatile - great sounding reverb as well.
LOVE it. LOVE it. LOVE it. You can even send some to an annoying flat plug-in synth and it will do wonders. Overdrive it and you will hear god. lol... A staple for Dub reggae as well. [/QUOTE]Hey Jordash,

Thanks for your comments; that's all I needed to hear! I'll be on the hunt pretty soon ;)

How's your music going? Looking fwd to hear some new stuff.

C.

[jordash]

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Originally posted by dynomite8:
What is the primary benefit of using an analog delay as opposed to plug ins? Is it simply a pleasing distortion added similar to tube preamps etc . . . or is there something an analog delay can do that can't properly be mimicked in algorithms?

Just curious since the moogerfooger delay for example runs near $700.

analogue delay just sounds far far better than digital. even the cheap ones. i love my electro harmonix memory man, which is relatively cheap and still sounds WAY better than any digital delay. plus having knobs and whatnot on it, you can actually PLAY the delay like an instrument as opposed to using a dial to set some numbers and then leaving it alone. its an entirely different experience, really. i reccomend you check out analogue delay ASAP........ [/QUOTE]do yourself a favor: check the RE-201 for the UAD dsp-card ;)

Olaf [/QUOTE]That plugin is awesome! [/QUOTE]Did anyone compare the plugin with the original hardware?
I am also looking to invest in some analog delay/reverb hardware and am thinking seriously about the Roland.
Any feedback on this?

C. [/QUOTE]Never heard that UAD...but you cannot go wrong with the Roland space-echo. Very versatile - great sounding reverb as well.
LOVE it. LOVE it. LOVE it. You can even send some to an annoying flat plug-in synth and it will do wonders. Overdrive it and you will hear god. lol... A staple for Dub reggae as well. [/QUOTE]Hey Jordash,

Thanks for your comments; that's all I needed to hear! I'll be on the hunt pretty soon ;)

How's your music going? Looking fwd to hear some new stuff.

C. [/QUOTE]Hey C,
Just make sure that the tape itself is in good condition. New tapes can be found on the internet, but sometimes they arnt great.
Things are goin pretty good musically. Thanks for asking. A couple releases coming up....Ill let you know.

Have fun with the Roland!!
peace,
j