Syn Drums..

[Al Kent]

Where does the "classic" syn drum sound come from, on tracks like First Time Around, or Disco Circus? Anyone know?

[djyoavb]

eather they were programmed on an analogue synth using white noise, hi resonance and the envelope (same with sound fx back then) or should be Simones synth drums from early 80s ;)

[Nege]

in the 70s you also had the "Synare" from Star Electronics.(1977)
basically an electric drum pad ,
was comonly used in a lot of groups at the time before the simmons took over in the eigties.



[ November 26, 2004, 08:16 PM: Message edited by: Nege ]

[Nege]

This one came out in the mid 70s
the very first percussion synth


Synare 1

[Al Kent]

I found that site too, some nice bits. But I'm looking for a specific model.

[Nege]

Oh Ok,
I can honestly tell you that the Synare 3 makes the sound you are looking for though,
;) I am sure the others do as well.

which one were you looking for?

[ November 30, 2004, 11:16 PM: Message edited by: Nege ]

[Al Kent]

Originally posted by Nege:
which one were you looking for?

That's the million dollar question - when I say specific, I mean I'm looking for a specific sound, and need to know which machine can do it. I've got a set of Simmons, which do similar things, but not exactly what I want. This is what I'm looking for disco circus

[D.J.T.]

ummm...

[ December 03, 2004, 05:13 AM: Message edited by: D.J.T. ]

[Nege]

Originally posted by Al Kent:

quote:

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Originally posted by Nege:
which one were you looking for?

That's the million dollar question - when I say specific, I mean I'm looking for a specific sound, and need to know which machine can do it. I've got a set of Simmons, which do similar things, but not exactly what I want. This is what I'm looking for disco circus [/QUOTE]i know for a fact that the synare 3 can make that sound,I have also managed to get that sound from a Juno 106.

[D.J.T.]

instinct would lean me towards a Jupiter 8

[Al Kent]

Originally posted by Nege:
i know for a fact that the synare 3 can make that sound,I have also managed to get that sound from a Juno 106.

Perfect - thanks.

[<Funky Dude>]

Hi all. As a 70s disco fan I'm trying to find out when the famous Syndrum sound was invented i.e. "P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-POWWWWW" sounds in disco songs like Kelly Marie's "It Feels Like I'm In Love", Arpeggio's "Love & Desire", Anita Ward's "Ring My Bell", Chain Reaction's "Dance Freak" etc... When were Syndrums first invented??? And when were they first used in disco music to produce the "P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-POWWWWW" sound?

Also that Synare drum mentioned in this thread, did it also produce the "P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-POWWWWW" disco sound or was it the Pollard Quad that did that?

I've not really heard any disco songs prior to 1978 that used Syndrums, though I question the 14 minute version of La Belle Epoque's "Black Is Black" from 1977 as it used some real electronic sounding drums at the beginning giving a really cool "B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-BOWWWWWW" sound.

Also could the classic synths like Arps, Moogs or those squencers Giorgio Moroder and Kraftwerk used produce the distinctive "P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-POWWWWW" Syndrum sound?????

If anyone could help answer the questions I'd most appreciate it as even the people in Discomusic.com couldn't answer when Syndrums were first used.

[djyoavb]

i think kraftwerk used to make their own little electronic percussion gadgets.

[Nege]

Originally posted by <Funky Dude>:
Hi all. As a 70s disco fan I'm trying to find out when the famous Syndrum sound was invented i.e. "P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-POWWWWW" sounds in disco songs like Kelly Marie's "It Feels Like I'm In Love", Arpeggio's "Love & Desire", Anita Ward's "Ring My Bell", Chain Reaction's "Dance Freak" etc... When were Syndrums first invented??? And when were they first used in disco music to produce the "P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-POWWWWW" sound?

Also that Synare drum mentioned in this thread, did it also produce the "P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-POWWWWW" disco sound or was it the Pollard Quad that did that?

yeah,
never heard of or seen the Pollard quad though( iguess it was another drum)
but the synare 3 used to make that sound.
it also made explosion sounds as well depending on how you tweeked the knobs on it.

[ February 05, 2006, 11:35 PM: Message edited by: Nege? ]

[Nege]

Originally posted by djyoavb:
i think kraftwerk used to make their own little electronic percussion gadgets.

yeah i read that in an article....

[djfunq]

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[Tony Cook]

In lieu of a definitive answer, i suggest that you:
-Sample it off one of the records.
-Improve your programming chops and use any number of analogs/virtuals and make a facsimilie.

[<MRB>]

Hi,

Just happened to be searching on Syndrum in Google and came upon this thread and being the designer of the Syndrum, I thought I'd answer some questions. The first model was the 477 (4 drums in 1977) clever huh? It got popular real fast and immediately appeared on a jillion songs. I came up with that PPPOOOOOWW sound as you call it (we used to call it DOOOOOOOMM) when I was striking a real mounted tom very hard with a stick and noticed that little downward pitch bend you get. Timbales do it real well. I just decided to exaggerate the hell out of that effect and the rest is history. To sum up, if it's on a record it's probably a Syndrum. Our endorsee list was the who's who of drummers.

[GrantB]

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[jordash]

Originally posted by <MRB>:
Hi,

Just happened to be searching on Syndrum in Google and came upon this thread and being the designer of the Syndrum, I thought I'd answer some questions. The first model was the 477 (4 drums in 1977) clever huh? It got popular real fast and immediately appeared on a jillion songs. I came up with that PPPOOOOOWW sound as you call it (we used to call it DOOOOOOOMM) when I was striking a real mounted tom very hard with a stick and noticed that little downward pitch bend you get. Timbales do it real well. I just decided to exaggerate the hell out of that effect and the rest is history. To sum up, if it's on a record it's probably a Syndrum. Our endorsee list was the who's who of drummers.

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peace,
j

[<Rob>]

Originally posted by <MRB>:
Hi,

Just happened to be searching on Syndrum in Google and came upon this thread and being the designer of the Syndrum, I thought I'd answer some questions. The first model was the 477 (4 drums in 1977) clever huh? It got popular real fast and immediately appeared on a jillion songs. I came up with that PPPOOOOOWW sound as you call it (we used to call it DOOOOOOOMM) when I was striking a real mounted tom very hard with a stick and noticed that little downward pitch bend you get. Timbales do it real well. I just decided to exaggerate the hell out of that effect and the rest is history. To sum up, if it's on a record it's probably a Syndrum. Our endorsee list was the who's who of drummers.

[<Rob>]

Originally posted by <Rob>:

quote:

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Originally posted by <MRB>:
Hi,

Just happened to be searching on Syndrum in Google and came upon this thread and being the designer of the Syndrum, I thought I'd answer some questions. The first model was the 477 (4 drums in 1977) clever huh? It got popular real fast and immediately appeared on a jillion songs. I came up with that PPPOOOOOWW sound as you call it (we used to call it DOOOOOOOMM) when I was striking a real mounted tom very hard with a stick and noticed that little downward pitch bend you get. Timbales do it real well. I just decided to exaggerate the hell out of that effect and the rest is history. To sum up, if it's on a record it's probably a Syndrum. Our endorsee list was the who's who of drummers.

[/QUOTE]Hi, I just posted without a reply, sorry... I found a Syndrum by Pollard Industries, model 477 (at a thrift store) and found this thread through google search too. It's in good condition cosmetically, but didn't have the 15 volt adapter. Powered up and tested with a 15v 1000mA power supply. It produced sound for a moment, but seemed unstable, disappearing after a few lever adjustments. It seems to function fine as a mixer. I've owned analog synths (e.g., ARP odyssey, Oberheim, Roland Juno's, etc.), but never keyless. I'd like to get any information on the Syndrum, if possible. I'm unsure of the I/O's on the back panel. Does the 5 pin drum input jack trigger the synth like it does on other models? Are the four high and low inputs additional drum/sound triggers? Do the sustain levers work like sound gates? Can you tell me what the 5 pin drum cord is meant to be used with? Any feedback would be appreciated, and it seems like I found the right place to ask.

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[wiz247]

Back in late 70s/80s I remember a company called Simmons that used to make synth drum kits and a like...
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