how do i get this sound?

[Paul R]

how do i get this sweeping synth sound from the clip on my JV1080?

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF191243-01-01-01.mp3

the sounds i'm using from that synth are really not inspiring me and i think it's down to me because a JV should be enough shouldn't it? or is it time to shell out on something a bit newer and better....

i just want some fat lead synth sounds

[chet]

the sweepy synth sounds like a LFO-controlled lowpass-filter. I think the ROLAND JV-1010 has no filters so that's not possible doing such sounds solely with that synth. I have an old Kawai K-3 with analog envelopes and filters. It is quite easy to program such effects with it.

[Paul R]

thanks

do you think i could get that sound with a Juno 6/106?

my JV1080 does have filters, but i've not managed to get that effect and it's not as easy to program

[ December 16, 2005, 06:31 AM: Message edited by: Paul R ]

[chet]

damn, your're right. it has filters:

Filter - TVF (lowpass, bandpass, high pass, peak) with cutoff, resonance, key follow and velocity sensitivity

and even

LFO - 2 LFO's (sine, saw, square, triangle, trapezoid, sample&hold, random and chaos) w/ key or external sync. Can modulate the pitch, filter, pan, or level

so you should be able to programm such sounds as well, at least with the help of the manual (http://www.rolandus.com/support/product_manual.asp)

[chet]

...and about the JUNO 106 I only found the following information about the LFO (http://www.vintagesynth.com/):
LFO - rate and delay
That doesn't say anything about the parameters which can be controlled by the LFO. But I guess it should be possible.

[Paul R]

i really need to sit down with the manual i think, i havn't really learnt how to program in depth

it just isn't as much fun as analogue!

[socratez]

Its just an ep sound with an lfo phaser effect. Play around youll get there

[Paul R]

cheers guys i'm gonna give myself a masterclass tonight

btw what's an ep sound? electric piano?

[<steffenb>]

socratez is right , this was also my thought
electric piano with a phaser !

[juan23]

Who made the track above?

[Free Russell]

Sounds like a brass sound, or maybe electric piano.

That sounds like a phaser or chorus that is further enhanced by adjustment of the synth filter-you can program it's LFO, or program the synth to allow control of the filter through keyboard aftertouch. On synths without either an LFO or aftertouch, adjust the filter manually while the sequecer is playing it.

You might want to consider another synth, mainly because many of the newer ones are more fun & more immediate to program. For strictly synth sounds, they also sound noticably better-fatter, more biting, more compelling than a JV, which is more of an all rounder specializing in sample playback vs. actual synth sounds.

The best actual synthesizers are Nord Lead rack, Waldorf XT rack and Poly Evolver. Not particularly expensive if bought used. The only shortcoming on these is that they don't have any samples of real instruments-no sample playback of pianos or rhodes such as heard on a JV. If you have to chose i'd go with a synth first.

A little boring but as you say, if you spend time to really know the ins and outs of a synth you don't need a lot of equipment.

If you want to unload it, this dude's looking for more realistic sounds vs. the more synthy sounds heard on that track:
http://deephousepage.com/ubb/ultimat...;f=17;t=000646

[ December 16, 2005, 08:22 PM: Message edited by: Free Russell ]

[Paul R]

thanks for the feedback,

Free Russell cheers i appreciate that, I'm gonna keep the JV though. I spent some time on it over the weekend & made a good patch instead of just tweaking presets. so I reckon i should just put the work in and learn how to program the thing before i write it off.... i also found it was easier to program than i thought - you just gotta know the shortcuts.

I've had my eye on a Nord Lead 3 for a while those are amazing sounding machines, def on the wishlist for the new year


Juan23 - the clip is Sunset by Kerri Chandler

[DJ Keith Porter]

Kerri customize that Synth..
One thing I have learned in this production stuff is that you make your own sounds and save them as presets.

That is a dope synth though..!


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[Paul R]

Keith are you talkin about the Nord Lead?

[Free Russell]

Bottom line is doing what you did-learn the synth's nuances well, know how to program it. With that knowledge, you're ahead of 95% of those making sounds IMO.

I'd suggest getting a synth at some point, the JV combined with a Nord, Waldorf or Evolver would increase options and the two complement one another.