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M-TRAXXX
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I still don't believe the rumor about Louis, & as far as recording his own tracks compared to other DJ/ producers. Their is a lot of other dj's that don't fully produce their own tracks as well. They hire an engineer to do all the work & the dj gets all the credit. In that case I feel the engineer should get some credit.
Back to the question @ hand, maybe Louis worked the same way with other people & just got most/ all the credit???
Him & Little Louie Vega put together 'freaky',
a slammin house track!!! Now you know he didn't pay Vega to put his name on that record. They both produced the record.
Well, I still love Louis & his beautiful music.
May thee Lord bless us w/ more talent like his.
M-TRAXXX. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Originally posted by aKiLa:
so lets start over with this.
do you feel it is right for individuals to claim credit for another artists work? i think i'ts wrong, wrong, wrong. but what i have gotten from others on this board though is that IT IS o.k. for someone to take credit for something they didn't do but it is not alright for us to talk about it. why is that? school me on this one cuz i really need to know. this time around we don't have to mention any names.
Respect to you my man...I think that you probably intended for this thread to go differently than the way it went. Remember...it's amazingly easy for things to get heated on messageboards. Often, that seems to be what they are best at. But you are obviously well spoken, intelligent and a strong debater...so you'll do just fine here!
As for your question:
Music is very often a collaborative process. There are producers, engineers, songwriters, musicians, etc. Plus friends and acquaitences that might give you inspiration, ideas or help. Sometimes people do not get credited as they shoould.
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Originally posted by aKiLa:
so lets start over with this.
do you feel it is right for individuals to claim credit for another artists work? i think i'ts wrong, wrong, wrong. but what i have gotten from others on this board though is that IT IS o.k. for someone to take credit for something they didn't do but it is not alright for us to talk about it. why is that? school me on this one cuz i really need to know. this time around we don't have to mention any names.
Respect to you my man...I think that you probably intended for this thread to go differently than the way it went. Remember...it's amazingly easy for things to get heated on messageboards. Often, that seems to be what they are best at. But you are obviously well spoken, intelligent and a strong debater...so you'll do just fine here!
As for your question:
Music is very often a collaborative process. There are producers, engineers, songwriters, musicians, etc. Plus friends and acquaitences that might give you inspiration, ideas or help. Sometimes people do not get credited as they shoould.
My sentiments as well, peace and welcome, mark
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Louis is definitely one in a million.i'm glad to see that heads have come to recognize why i was so hurt to hear this accusation from someone about Louis.
i know i went about the whole post the completeley wrong way and i will just suck it up and accept the fact that i shouldn't have called out names to begin with.
ya,l are right i don't know what this page is all about just yet. but i,ll be damned if if a let a few snide remarks stop me from participating on this site.
i have been to all the other sites that claim to be representin but none feel as close to my vision of what this music is about as this one. and you can quote me on that one.
i can be a little pig headed at times especially when heads want to call me out. i know i have a hell of a lot to learn but thats why i'm here right? to be schooled by those who have something to offer my stubborn, naive, loving to stir up controversy for the sake of interesting conversation ass.
respect to all who i mentioned before. as for those who jumped on the thread to just talk shit. my KISS MY ASS comment still stands. cuz ya'll know that you would never even consider jumping in this conversation up close and personal. i of course feel it is worth a beat down to stand up for what i have to say. a wise friend once told me " aKiLa, sometimes you are too free for your own good but that just shows how passionate you are about your true beliefs".
still i can'tdeny that i love a good debate.
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I always read the posts on DHP, but I've never posted before, so I just want to say, what up to everybody first off.
What got me to post though was when I read Fred and C.V.O.'s, statements about Hales and Video Clash.
Now, I'm not a D.J., I just love the music, and dance. But, I just wanted to say that I don't know who Dion Wilson is-- never heard of him. But, I do have a lot of brothas in my family that attended Hales. And, I know that there has always been controversy over whether or not a brother named Lawrence Knawls, Class of '88's, "HALES TRAXX", was stolen by major D.J.'s in the city.
Know, once again, I'm not a D.J., I only dance to the music, and I'm not absolutely sure if Video Clash is the same Traxx because as the dancer, I don't always know the title of music, but, I know it when I hear it. But, if it's the traxx that goes: uhn,uhn,uhn,uhn-- uhn..... I was always told that that traxx was stolen from Lawrence who used to have a Traxx out that had the same beat except it went: uhn, uhn,uhn, uhn-- HALES! uhn, uhn, uhn, uhn -- HALES! HALES HALES! HA- HA- HA- HALES, HA-HALES! ( I hope ya'll can understand what I'm trying to write but, it's hard to explain in words a traxx. LOL!)
But, I'm pretty sure that during that time, Hales was the first to play that beat because if ya'll remember Hales and Mendel were rivals. And, back in the day, they used to always do those party battles against each other. And, Hales would play that "Hals Traxx" at their homecoming games and parties all the time. Now, I was only in grammer school then, so, I remember that when they used to play that "Hales Traxx", everybody would SNAP, and the whole BUILDING would ROCK!!!! And, I remember that my brother used to tell me that Mendel was mad because they couldn't top that one!
So, anyway, this is not to argue with anybody. It's just that when I read Fred's post, it made me remember the controversy.
But, if Video Clash is the same traxx that I'm thinking about, I'm pretty sure that none of the D.J.'s creditted with it, including Louis, made the ORIGINAL of that traxx. Nobody was playing that beat before Lawrence's "Hales Traxx". And everytime that my brother, who was in the same class with Lawrence, hears it, he always says that it's a shame that Lawrence never got a copyright, so people couldn't steal it. It's even been in a movie. When I asked my brother about the "Hales Traxx" again the other day, he told me that if Lawrence didn't make the original, why didn't Louis, or whoever else, sue Lawrence for the Hales Traxx, which he said that they used to have the D.J,'s play for them at their parties. That's how the D.J.'s knew about it, and took it, and made their own version of it, but he said that Lawrence's was still the ORIGINAL.
By the way, Lawrence works at Hales now as an assistant football coach, and he may teach there as well. So, if anybody wants to know if that indeed is the same traxx in question, and you want to hear his side on that, you can probably contact him there.
Also, you may get the opportunity to hear it for yourselves. My brother and some other alumni from Hales are thinking about trying trying to find D.J.'s to put together a house party to help raise money for the school. He told me that if they can get it together, he's gonna ask Lawrence if that traxx can be played.
Anyway, just wanted to add to the conversation.
Peace!
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Great Info, and welcome, the Mendel - Hales rivalry goes back to the late 60s early 70s. I went to Mendel but grew up not that far from Hales, on the other side of Washington Park, so I knew a lot of cats that went to Hales. It was all good until we got on the court then it was war. Good insight, nice to see your boy going back and giving back to Hales, much respect for that, peace, mark
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But, if it's the traxx that goes: uhn,uhn,uhn,uhn-- uhn..... I was always told that that traxx was stolen
Yeah that sounds like Video Clash except the last 'uhn' at the end is a higher note.
Magic Feat (orig. version) by Mike Dunn all the 'uhns' are monotone and it has a BOOM...BOOM... at the end.
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I was always told that that traxx was stolen from Lawrence who used to have a Traxx out that had the same beat except it went: uhn, uhn,uhn, uhn-- HALES! uhn, uhn, uhn, uhn -- HALES! HALES HALES! HA- HA- HA- HALES, HA-HALES! ( I hope ya'll can understand what I'm trying to write but, it's hard to explain in words a traxx. LOL!
It sounds like the one shot sampler was in full effect, was Hales Trax released on vinyl?
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of '88's, "HALES TRAXX", was stolen by major D.J.'s in the city.
goes: uhn,uhn,uhn,uhn-- uhn.....
Peace![/QB][/QUOTE]Now need i say more 1988 vs. 1984 Magic Track(Video Clash) was made waaaaaaayyyy b4 the hales track,
And whats funny is yall are still arguing this BS wake up yall listen to louis's stuff it always had his element a particular sound that only he has come up with over the years; thats what made louis tracks so sweet & different they all has his sound, i guess louis went to visit hales every year(yeah-rite)!,
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Originally posted by whyilovehouse:
I always read the posts on DHP, but I've never posted before, so I just want to say, what up to everybody first off.
What got me to post though was when I read Fred and C.V.O.'s, statements about Hales and Video Clash.
Now, I'm not a D.J., I just love the music, and dance. But, I just wanted to say that I don't know who Dion Wilson is-- never heard of him. But, I do have a lot of brothas in my family that attended Hales. And, I know that there has always been controversy over whether or not a brother named Lawrence Knawls, Class of '88's, "HALES TRAXX", was stolen by major D.J.'s in the city.
Know, once again, I'm not a D.J., I only dance to the music, and I'm not absolutely sure if Video Clash is the same Traxx because as the dancer, I don't always know the title of music, but, I know it when I hear it. But, if it's the traxx that goes: uhn,uhn,uhn,uhn-- uhn..... I was always told that that traxx was stolen from Lawrence who used to have a Traxx out that had the same beat except it went: uhn, uhn,uhn, uhn-- HALES! uhn, uhn, uhn, uhn -- HALES! HALES HALES! HA- HA- HA- HALES, HA-HALES! ( I hope ya'll can understand what I'm trying to write but, it's hard to explain in words a traxx. LOL!)
But, I'm pretty sure that during that time, Hales was the first to play that beat because if ya'll remember Hales and Mendel were rivals. And, back in the day, they used to always do those party battles against each other. And, Hales would play that "Hals Traxx" at their homecoming games and parties all the time. Now, I was only in grammer school then, so, I remember that when they used to play that "Hales Traxx", everybody would SNAP, and the whole BUILDING would ROCK!!!! And, I remember that my brother used to tell me that Mendel was mad because they couldn't top that one!
So, anyway, this is not to argue with anybody. It's just that when I read Fred's post, it made me remember the controversy.
But, if Video Clash is the same traxx that I'm thinking about, I'm pretty sure that none of the D.J.'s creditted with it, including Louis, made the ORIGINAL of that traxx. Nobody was playing that beat before Lawrence's "Hales Traxx". And everytime that my brother, who was in the same class with Lawrence, hears it, he always says that it's a shame that Lawrence never got a copyright, so people couldn't steal it. It's even been in a movie. When I asked my brother about the "Hales Traxx" again the other day, he told me that if Lawrence didn't make the original, why didn't Louis, or whoever else, sue Lawrence for the Hales Traxx, which he said that they used to have the D.J,'s play for them at their parties. That's how the D.J.'s knew about it, and took it, and made their own version of it, but he said that Lawrence's was still the ORIGINAL.
By the way, Lawrence works at Hales now as an assistant football coach, and he may teach there as well. So, if anybody wants to know if that indeed is the same traxx in question, and you want to hear his side on that, you can probably contact him there.
Also, you may get the opportunity to hear it for yourselves. My brother and some other alumni from Hales are thinking about trying trying to find D.J.'s to put together a house party to help raise money for the school. He told me that if they can get it together, he's gonna ask Lawrence if that traxx can be played.
Anyway, just wanted to add to the conversation.
Peace!
Whomever you are, fellow alumni, thank you for backing me up on this. The Hales Track used to be played during warm up lines before our basketball games and during our parties WHICH LIL LOUIS USED TO SPIN AT! (remember now, Louis was pegged as a high school DJ now all of a sudden he is too good for that) Louis wouldn't have gotten the idea for the track if it wasn't for Lawrence "Bear" Nalls because he gave him a copy of the tape to play at our parties! I have a copy of the original, Shaun Hardison has a copy of the original, and Steve Price has a copy of the original. All before Video Clash was even a twinkle in louis' eye. Like I said before, if Louis made some money off that, and obviously he did, God bless him, but the TRUTH is the TRUTH. And if Bear never made a stink about it, although to add insult to injury, Louis turned around and played Clash at Hales, (ya gotta admit the little dude had some nuts), then I'm not going to make a stink about it. I'm just defending my friend and classmate on that particular issue, I could really give a fuck what Louis did otherwise because I gave him credit as being one of the best ever. Dion Wilson didn't even start at Hales until 88 (my senior year and video clash was released in 87). And there was already another Hales Track that didn't even sound like the first one (I'ts Hales). So, I don't expect Louis to come on the board and say anything to the contrary, but when he gets on his knees and pray, he knows better.
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Originally posted by whyilovehouse:
I always read the posts on DHP, but I've never posted before, so I just want to say, what up to everybody first off.
What got me to post though was when I read Fred and C.V.O.'s, statements about Hales and Video Clash.
Now, I'm not a D.J., I just love the music, and dance. But, I just wanted to say that I don't know who Dion Wilson is-- never heard of him. But, I do have a lot of brothas in my family that attended Hales. And, I know that there has always been controversy over whether or not a brother named Lawrence Knawls, Class of '88's, "HALES TRAXX", was stolen by major D.J.'s in the city.
Know, once again, I'm not a D.J., I only dance to the music, and I'm not absolutely sure if Video Clash is the same Traxx because as the dancer, I don't always know the title of music, but, I know it when I hear it. But, if it's the traxx that goes: uhn,uhn,uhn,uhn-- uhn..... I was always told that that traxx was stolen from Lawrence who used to have a Traxx out that had the same beat except it went: uhn, uhn,uhn, uhn-- HALES! uhn, uhn, uhn, uhn -- HALES! HALES HALES! HA- HA- HA- HALES, HA-HALES! ( I hope ya'll can understand what I'm trying to write but, it's hard to explain in words a traxx. LOL!)
But, I'm pretty sure that during that time, Hales was the first to play that beat because if ya'll remember Hales and Mendel were rivals. And, back in the day, they used to always do those party battles against each other. And, Hales would play that "Hals Traxx" at their homecoming games and parties all the time. Now, I was only in grammer school then, so, I remember that when they used to play that "Hales Traxx", everybody would SNAP, and the whole BUILDING would ROCK!!!! And, I remember that my brother used to tell me that Mendel was mad because they couldn't top that one!
So, anyway, this is not to argue with anybody. It's just that when I read Fred's post, it made me remember the controversy.
But, if Video Clash is the same traxx that I'm thinking about, I'm pretty sure that none of the D.J.'s creditted with it, including Louis, made the ORIGINAL of that traxx. Nobody was playing that beat before Lawrence's "Hales Traxx". And everytime that my brother, who was in the same class with Lawrence, hears it, he always says that it's a shame that Lawrence never got a copyright, so people couldn't steal it. It's even been in a movie. When I asked my brother about the "Hales Traxx" again the other day, he told me that if Lawrence didn't make the original, why didn't Louis, or whoever else, sue Lawrence for the Hales Traxx, which he said that they used to have the D.J,'s play for them at their parties. That's how the D.J.'s knew about it, and took it, and made their own version of it, but he said that Lawrence's was still the ORIGINAL.
By the way, Lawrence works at Hales now as an assistant football coach, and he may teach there as well. So, if anybody wants to know if that indeed is the same traxx in question, and you want to hear his side on that, you can probably contact him there.
Also, you may get the opportunity to hear it for yourselves. My brother and some other alumni from Hales are thinking about trying trying to find D.J.'s to put together a house party to help raise money for the school. He told me that if they can get it together, he's gonna ask Lawrence if that traxx can be played.
Anyway, just wanted to add to the conversation.
Peace!
Whomever you are, fellow alumni, thank you for backing me up on this. The Hales Track used to be played during warm up lines before our basketball games and during our parties WHICH LIL LOUIS USED TO SPIN AT! (remember now, Louis was pegged as a high school DJ now all of a sudden he is too good for that) Louis wouldn't have gotten the idea for the track if it wasn't for Lawrence "Bear" Nalls because he gave him a copy of the tape to play at our parties! I have a copy of the original, Shaun Hardison has a copy of the original, and Steve Price has a copy of the original. All before Video Clash was even a twinkle in louis' eye. Like I said before, if Louis made some money off that, and obviously he did, God bless him, but the TRUTH is the TRUTH. And if Bear never made a stink about it, although to add insult to injury, Louis turned around and played Clash at Hales, (ya gotta admit the little dude had some nuts), then I'm not going to make a stink about it. I'm just defending my friend and classmate on that particular issue, I could really give a fuck what Louis did otherwise because I gave him credit as being one of the best ever. Dion Wilson didn't even start at Hales until 88 (my senior year and video clash was released in 87). And there was already another Hales Track that didn't even sound like the first one (I'ts Hales). So, I don't expect Louis to come on the board and say anything to the contrary, but when he gets on his knees and pray, he knows better.
You fresh out of rehalb and still smoking, how many tymes did louis play hells and if you were there in 88 louis played hales in 86, and if you dont know i'll show where louis got the idea for the Magic Track, you're talking like you know but you really dont hey remember ron hardy played Hales too, Pharris T, Andre Hatchett, ect., now if yall want know sumthin come to people who know, because these cats dont know shit! No Offense.
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I was there Glenn, from 84-88! I know who played there! Yeah, you can check all they tapes and Louis' too. The question still stands if Louis made the track in 84, and mua fuggas was playing it all the way until he released Video clash sometime 2-3 years later, you mean to tell me that such an astute businessman as Louis ain't threw no lawsuit against all these supposed biters? Why didn't Louis raise no hell about it at Hales when he played there and btw, he played there more than just '86.
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To Fred:
What up brah?!?
You're welcome, but I'm not an alumni of Hales-- I'm a woman. LOL! But, you and my brother, Tony, were in the same class. So, if you wanna try to hook up back with your classmate, post your e-mail, and I'll hit you back so ya'll can hook up.
Now, since I didn't go there, alot of stuff I won't comment on. I'll wait til I speak to my brother, and see what he says. But, hey we know what we know! Spartans 4 Life!!!
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i'd rather be a mustang than a spartan!
ha, ha, ha.
i would suppose that even if lil louis didn't write some of the stuff he produced, its probably his name that is more significant. lil louis is like a brandname. he's got a loyal market of fans. people trust his music. if there's a party and lil louis is spinning, people will stand out in the cold during some colder than a bitch chicago winter to get into some hole in the wall place to listen to him spin. lil louis is like the ford f-150...a name that we can trust.
i will pause now to get off his nutsack.
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I was there Glenn, from 84-88! I know who played there! Yeah, you can check all they tapes and Louis' too. The question still stands if Louis made the track in 84, and mua fuggas was playing it all the way until he released Video clash sometime 2-3 years later, you mean to tell me that such an astute businessman as Louis ain't threw no lawsuit against all these supposed biters? Why didn't Louis raise no hell about it at Hales when he played there and btw, he played there more than just '86.
Why would he sue someone who's muzic that did not come out on wax, you usaully sue when some one is making money on your stuff, but there is nothing wrong with doing a version of something for your own use, like i have my own version of Thank You masters @ work & be be wynans and we know they made it, but that dont mean i bit it now do it.
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First off, let me say that I entered high school in the late eighties, when the house scene started to die out. And, if it weren't for D.J.'s like Louis, Boo Williams, and DJ Rush, I'd never really had a true "House Party" experience in my youth. So, I certainly don't have a beef with Louis. I love that brotha-- no doubt.
Also, note that I stated that this has been controversy at Hales eversince Louis brought Video Clash out, because I remember my brother talking about it. I can only ask myself, and others, if Lawrence didn't make the original, why was it even an issue at Hales, all the way back then? If the brothas at Hales had heard Louis' version prior to the Hales Traxx, it would never have even been an issue. They wouldn't have anything to trip about if they knew that Louis played it first. They would've just accepted the Hales Traxx as a copy of Louis' thing, and it wouldn't have been a problem. So, this controvery is not knew. It started all the way back then.
And, GU, I have much love and respect for you for all that you've contributed to house music as a whole. But, I'm a firm believer that nobody is ALL KNOWING except GOD HIMSELF. And, nobody, including Louis, is above questioning. None of us are perfect, or walk on water.
Now, as I stated before, I was was young at the time that the "Hales Traxx" came out. But, I was still heavily into house music because my brother attended Hales, from '84-'88, like Fred, and that's all that he listened to. Now, I personally don't remember hearing Louis' version until after Lawrence's. And, I remember the first time that I heard a D.J., play it in a mix, on the radio, and I asked my brother what was their ( Hales) traxx doing on the radio, without the part that said "Hales". He told me then, that they had stolen it from Lawrence.
Now, the way I see it, even if Louis did steal it, he'd never admit to it. That traxx has even been in "Buffy The Vampire Slayer", the movie. So, I doubt very seriously, a brotha would be wanting to cough up some of the royalties to Lawrence from that, and any other benefit that he's received from that. Since technology wasn't then what it is now, and there was probably no way for Lawrence to date the traxx that he made, versus what Louis did, there may be no way to really find the WHOLE TRUTH, at this point. You can only listen to BOTH sides of the whole controversy, and formulate your own opinion based on that.
I read all the previous posts to my brother, over the phone. LOL! He said that Fred was right, Louis did spin at Hales more than that one time. He also told me that yeah GU, was right that all those D.J.'s that he mentioned did spin at Hales' parties, as well as Frankie Knuckles, members of the Hot Mix 5, etc...He said just about every major D.J., in the city, and those now considered House Legends spinned at Hales. But, he didn't remember if GU, D.J.'ed there or not. He also said that GU was right when he said above, " you want know sumthin come to people who know". But, he said the people who you should come to and who KNOW are the the Spartans who were at Hales from '84-'88-- in particularly, those that graduated in '88. He went on to talk about how Lawrence made the Hales Traxx, on a drum/ beat machine, and some other stuff. I don't remember it all, so... sue me ! LOL!
For those who're interested , and haven't heard the Hales Traxx, try and see if Fred can hook you up with a listening. Though, I doubt he'd actually give you the traxx because the Spartans are a little touchy about their stuff ( LOL Fred!), and they feel like it's been stolen before. But, maybe he'd let you listen to it. It's been over a decade since I've heard it myself.
Unfortunately, I knew that my post would cause some chaos when I posted under this topic. I honestly didn't mean to start an argument but since I knew about what Fred was talking about, I felt inclined to back him up on it. Now, I personally don't understand why people get on the internet just to argue. There's enough drama in the world. So, I never understand why people want to get on the internet and keep the drama going. It's not that serious ya'll. Conversation is good, and it's cool to disagree but, it ain't necessary to raise your blood pressure over something that can't make or break you anyway. As far as this topic goes, no matter if Lawrence or Louis made the original, (although I have my own opinion), Louis got the credit for it. And, there's nothing that can be done about it now unless Lawrence can find a way to prove that Louis did not make the original-- which if he left it alone then, I doubt that he'll pursue that now.
Lastly, I've never seen a one sided coin, and I never heard a story that only had one interpretation, or side. Therefore, I suggest those who REALLY want to know, you should try to contact Lawrence. That's why I posted where you can find him above. Because we can go on and on about this, but it still won't matter. And, although we all know that Louis is A god, and a legend in the history of house, HE IS NOT THE Supreme Being, nor did he have a halo over his head the last time that I saw him. So, I won't take the fact that he is who he is , over the fact that he's still HUMAN. In the history of music period, there have been too many people who've had their music stolen, and never given credit for it. Only Lawrence, Louis, maybe those who were actually there, and God know what the REAL TRUTH is. Everybody else, is only grasping at straws.
Peace Ya'll!
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Fred & WhyILoveHouse,
Much thanks, luv and appreciation for your comments and excellent recall on this subject. I really thought that everyone had forgotten about my little track!
To be honest, I never really intended to do anything more with the track beyond Hales. It was a shame that it got "bootlegged". I actually put it together around '86 because it was the beginning of our junior year. Hell, had I known then what I know now, I would have definitely stuck with music. I have to see Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I didn't know Video Clash had made it so far!
To put all rumors to death, that track, in any form, was never played before I made it with an assist from my guy Shaun Hardison.
Thanks again.
See you around!
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Klaus B
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Originally posted by C.V.O:
Now let me address this matter i use to hang out with Louis and his brothers, lets talk video clash witch the original name is the magic track Louis made that track in about 1984, Now Dion Wilsons(Hales) was made later back in the day(after ward); to gain publicity one would remake a track and say he is the originater of the track just to get a rep. look at the year dion(no id) was in hales then the truth will come out, but i know Louis made a lot of his tracks by watching him do it, no one can argue this. This could go on 4ever with people saying ; I made this or i made that 1st, hell peole say they have made some of my tracks and every one know's i make my own shit, keys production and all, but a lot of peole was jealous of louis, thats why he is not really mentioned in our old school conversations, but him and dj pierre, and larry heard set trends for the worlds house sound when they took the sound to NY.(no offense)
WHOOOOAAH!!!
It was made in 1984?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!
Louis was always a visionary, and to those who
accuse him for "stealing" other peoples material:
How is it possible to make such a charateristic
and personal sound, if you steal the shit.
NO WAY!!!! ![[nono]](graemlins/nono.gif)
BTW, was this specific remaking of tracks not known as "Public Domain tracks" ? Just remember
it being mentioned in some article, I read many years ago...
LOUIS IS THE MAN... ![[thumbsup]](graemlins/thumbsup.gif)
[ February 06, 2003, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: Klaus B ]
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SOUL, YOU CAN'T BUY IT AND WE PITY THOSE WHO TRY!!
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Alain Patrick
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>>> I am really sorry, but the true story is totally different from what is being posted here.
I interviewed Adonis, Tyree Cooper, MARSHALL JEFFERSON & KYM MAZELLE (these two ones were at the studio when VIDEO CLASH was made), and I guarantee you that it did not happened like you said.
The ORIGINAL version belongs to MARSHALL JEFFERSON - and had KYM MAZELLE's vocals.
Please read the whole story:
The True Story About "Video Clash" (second comment below)
I wrote that comment after Marshall Jefferson's and Tyree's gave me their approval.
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Originally posted by Klaus B:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by C.V.O:
[qb]Now let me address this matter i use to hang out with Louis and his brothers, lets talk video clash witch the original name is the magic track Louis made that track in about 1984,
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