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Topic: Vanity Fair & Hispanics - "The Response"
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mhd
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Originally posted by ngeso:
she actually mentions this in the feature article.
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"No one would hire me," she tells the mag on stands Jan 8. "I had studio heads say to me, 'You could have been the biggest star in America, but you were born in the wrong country. You can never be a leading lady, because we can't take the risk of you opening your mouth and people thinking of their maids.'"
http://www.etonline.com/celebrity/a13891.htm
(sorry, but i do not have a link to the whole interview)
peace. ngeso.
konbit and ng, you guys make a powerful argument, the problem is this is exactly how a lot of people feel. when you say, "it doesn't make sense otherwise" you fail to recognize that dame edna would make such a racist comment and vanity fair would publish it, in spite of what was said to salma by studio heads. those idiots need to read some Marquez, lorca, neruda, etc. there are some incredible roles in 100 years of solitude, for example.
at the end of the day, i used to work with Lisa Navarette, and i trust her judgement, i stand with my latino brothers and sisters
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suenomartino
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well, i can only hope that the letters you guys write in are a little more critical and thought-out than the reactionary rubbish on the first page.
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suenomartino
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"reactionary rubbish" = the open letter and the press statement on the first page.
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f0reverneverm0re
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Originally posted by DJ 138:
People people people...
Dame Edna is a drag queen stand up comic from Britain.
This is not serious advice.
It is meant to be taken as a joke.
Whether or not it's funny is subjective.
It is, however, a joke about cultural subject matter. Many comedians of all races and cultures make fun of their own culture and other cultures. IMO, it just ain't funny.
i've though and thought about what tcano presented and i've come 2 the same conclusion. fuck Vanity Fair overall but yeah, if you think about "spanish speaking" cultures it is equal to all other cultures (IMV); "Dame Edna" seems to be weighing it against French and German cultural influence in a sardonic sort of way.
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Tony Cano
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Dear Reader:
We are writing you to relay our distress at the reaction a column in the
February issue of Vanity Fair has caused you and others within the Latin
community in the United States and elsewhere, and to explain the reasoning
behind our decision to publish the column, the effect of which has been the
exact opposite of what we intended. Our intent, in short, was to mock the very
ethnic stereotypes that some have accused us of reinforcing.
Dame Edna Everage is a fictitious character created and portrayed by the
Australian entertainer and author Barry Humphries. Edna is a caricature of a
certain type of small-minded, socially ambitious, vaguely upper-class person.
Those familiar with Dame Edna's performances understand that her politically
incorrect and often insulting utterances are meant as a parody of backward
attitudes Humphries finds irritating or offensive.
When we hired Barry Humphries two years ago to write a satirical advice column
in Dame Edna's name, we did so on the comedic premise that Dame Edna is the last
person on Earth that anyone would go to for sound advice. In stark contrast to a
serious advice columnist, Dame Edna takes her questioners' worst assumptions and
runs with them. When, for instance, in the same column that has caused so much
controversy, one questioner asks about a lingering redness that has resulted
from a cosmetic operation, Edna replies, "You'll probably look like a beetroot
for the rest of your life." When another expresses a distaste for salmon, she
launches into an irrational attack on the fish, even suggesting that it causes
salmonella. Clearly, this advice column should not be taken seriously.
In her column in our February issue, Edna responds to a questioner who claims to
feel pressure to learn Spanish. Right away, her outrageously ignorant
suggestions that the only work of Spanish literature worth reading is Don
Quixote, and that "a quick listen to the CD of Man of La Mancha will take care
of that," tip the reader off that this is not a sincere, intelligent, or in any
way legitimate analysis and that it is not meant to be taken at face value.
She goes on: "Who speaks [Spanish] that you are so desperate to talk to? The
help? Your leaf blower?" The backward bigotry of these statements was so far
over the line that we felt it could only be taken as satire. In our judgment it
was a politically incorrect but blatantly satirical barb directed against anyone
who might be unaware of the great contributions Latin people have made and
continue to make in every walk of life, here in the United States and around the
world. (Note, too, that two sentences later, she insults English-speaking
Americans, saying, "If you're American, try [learning] English.")
Ironically, perhaps, the February issue featured a cover story on Salma Hayek.
Talk about Spanish-speaking people the average American would be desperate to
have a conversation with: there's the Oscar-nominated Salma Hayek; her brilliant
furniture-designer brother, Sami; the handsome leading man Antonio Banderas; the
director Robert Rodriguez; and the great 20th century artists Frida Kahlo and
Diego Rivera. Elsewhere in the magazine, John Richardson, who has devoted years
to writing the definitive biography of the great Spanish painter Pablo Picasso,
writes a long feature about Picasso's friendly rivalry with Henri Matisse. Would
a magazine that honestly endorsed opinions like those voiced by the character
Dame Edna have published these articles?
We have apologized publicly for the offense we caused unintentionally-indeed,
counter to our intentions. We will reprint our public apology and a number of
letters, including one by Salma Hayek herself, in our April issue, which will be
published in the second week of March.
We are asking those who feel offended by this piece to forgive us for our
insensitivity. We also ask them to consider the context-the fact that these
statements were meant to be read ironically-and to take into account the fact
that it was never, ever our goal to disparage or insult any ethnic group. We are
confident that our history and our future will erase any suspicions that we are
biased against Spanish speakers or anyone else.
Sincerely,
The Editors
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konbit
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Exactly. How everybody missed this is beyond me.
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