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THWoman
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How much of your high from dancing is connected to drinking or drugging? In my house music history, I hear so much about "the music got me sooo high..."i then scratch my head and wonder is it the music that is truly gettin' you high? Just a question....
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kara
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How much of your high from dancing is connected to drinking or drugging? In my house music history, I hear so much about "the music got me sooo high..."i then scratch my head and wonder is it the music that is truly gettin' you high? Just a question....
good question/topic
when i got into clubs, the idea of dancing was VERY foreign for me, i didnt grow up around it or know people who danced really ... but i was attracted to the whole scene, even if i didnt know why yet. then this guy i knew, who was an amazing dancer, told me it was cuz of (drug johndoe) andthat i should try it then id understand what he meant. and for awhile it was intricately linked experience, going out ,getting high/dancing = one big high.
then not so much. then not at all.
15 years latetr and after a whirlwind that path led me down, NOW i go out to dance (sober or mostly sober - minuys a few drinkies) to feel that high. id say now i actually feel a deeper connection to it all, and a more intense high than before
in my path toward a (somehwat)more sober life, its the only thing thats kept me going .. is the once every two weeks at red maybe, my little fix. my mom remarked the ohter day that my going out to a club seemed was my addiction, and while i think she meant something else, i think shes right. something in that experience is a real high. (not to say im a saint now .. but ya get what i mean)
but as inhibited as i am, there's a one drink miminum to be able to dance .. sometimes 2 or 3. i dont see that changing anytime soon.
hmm, i wonder if this is what you meant with this topic ... ![[Idontknow]](graemlins/conf44.gif)
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Yes Kara, you are on the right train. Thanks for responding.
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NubianSista
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This is the perfect topic for me.
I am a recovering addict and to be able to party with out a controlled substance is a gift from GOD.
My love for music was my first high. As a little girl dancing has always been a part of me long before I ever picked up a substance. I can say I have experienced both.
In the early years… say my teens I was a full fledged addict. I did everything and thought I needed drugs to enjoy the party. Even with alcohol not being my choice drug. I still would drink. This only took me to a path of self destruction. At the end of my addiction it had even stripped me of my ability to enjoy dancing. Because using became a full time activity.
Now being drug and alcohol free for over 12 yrs. I can say proudly, I don't need any mood, mind, altering chemicals to enjoy the music. Today I really do get a high from the music. Some times it feels like I am actually transcending out side of my body. Sometimes it feels just as good as sex. And believe when I tell you, I love sex. That just to let you know, dancing/music are very powerful to me.
My romance with dance music has been renewed and the passion is as vibrant now than it could ever be.
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i use to go out on dance like 4 to 5 nights a week for 3 yrs straight. Now i only get to do 1 or 2 a week, and im always sober not a drink in me or a substance. People think im always on something but it reall is the music that makes me high. Some people jsut dont understand.
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THWoman, do you feel "drug free" is the only way one can truly experience/feel music?
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Negative, but I do wonder how much of the experience / feeling of the music is connected to the drugs or the alcohol.
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THWoman, do you feel "drug free" is the only way one can truly experience/feel music?
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kara
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Negative, but I do wonder how much of the experience / feeling of the music is connected to the drugs or the alcohol.
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THWoman, do you feel "drug free" is the only way one can truly experience/feel music?
i suspect its like any situation, where drugs/alcohol is an artificial inducer of a high, that can be tapped into naturally ... dancing b/c of the physical aspect, and how your body releases endorphins, etc., would be one of the activities where it may be easiest to tap into the natural way to the high (sex too. giggles)
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Negative, but I do wonder how much of the experience / feeling of the music is connected to the drugs or the alcohol.
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THWoman, do you feel "drug free" is the only way one can truly experience/feel music?
I think that depends a lot on one's views on drugs and why it matters to you. While I don't advocate or really care who is on drugs (unless some rolling face kid comes up and wants a hug - argh!), I find that people neglect many drugs when forming opinions. Legality is important, but why worry about just the illegal stuff when a sizeable chunk of the population is on birth control pills, mood elevators and depressors .. stuff they take daily! Then there's alcohol. I've partied on and off drugs. Sometimes it helped sometimes it hindered my dancing, it has never affected my overall love for music. Then again, I've never found myself appreciating the drug over the music. They've worked as a team.
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Why are you curious about this issue?
Have you been affected by drugs in a way that has you thinking a certain way about user dancers?
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Originally posted by THWoman:
Negative, but I do wonder how much of the experience / feeling of the music is connected to the drugs or the alcohol.
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Originally posted by 6 23:
THWoman, do you feel "drug free" is the only way one can truly experience/feel music?
i suspect its like any situation, where drugs/alcohol is an artificial inducer of a high, that can be tapped into naturally ... dancing b/c of the physical aspect, and how your body releases endorphins, etc., would be one of the activities where it may be easiest to tap into the natural way to the high (sex too. giggles)
For me it's straight up exercise. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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I'm curious because, I truly feel free when dancing....to house music...in a comfortable venue. Though, I've never been high from drugs, I do feel high from the music / dance experience. I've talked with people who do use recreational drugs and the effects (or is it affects) sound similiar to what I experience. On rare occasions I'll enjoy an alcoholic beverage and I find it hinders my ability to free myself on the dance floor. I find that I make an extra effort to be in control. It is a buzz-kill, a real downer! I then find myself sitting around more; being more of a wallflower...or I'll dance doing minimal footwork.
Is it just me???
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Originally posted by THWoman:
Negative, but I do wonder how much of the experience / feeling of the music is connected to the drugs or the alcohol.
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Originally posted by 6 23:
THWoman, do you feel "drug free" is the only way one can truly experience/feel music?
I think that depends a lot on one's views on drugs and why it matters to you. While I don't advocate or really care who is on drugs (unless some rolling face kid comes up and wants a hug - argh!), I find that people neglect many drugs when forming opinions. Legality is important, but why worry about just the illegal stuff when a sizeable chunk of the population is on birth control pills, mood elevators and depressors .. stuff they take daily! Then there's alcohol. I've partied on and off drugs. Sometimes it helped sometimes it hindered my dancing, it has never affected my overall love for music. Then again, I've never found myself appreciating the drug over the music. They've worked as a team.
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Have you been affected by drugs in a way that has you thinking a certain way about user dancers?
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kara
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interesting
"truly feel free when dancing....to house music...in a comfortable venue. [and] feel high from the music / dance experience."
if i felt like that in a sober state id never drink or smoke or bother w/anything in clubs ... that is the goal. IMO. getting there naturally = ideal
as a sidenote: i feel stress, or anxiety, physical and/or mental, feed my need to boogie and play into it all ... sometimes i wouldnt dream of smokeing anything , im flying off whatever's on my mind , and thats all i can take
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Originally posted by THWoman:
I'm curious because, I truly feel free when dancing....to house music...in a comfortable venue. Though, I've never been high from drugs, I do feel high from the music / dance experience. I've talked with people who do use recreational drugs and the effects (or is it affects) sound similiar to what I experience. On rare occasions I'll enjoy an alcoholic beverage and I find it hinders my ability to free myself on the dance floor. I find that I make an extra effort to be in control. It is a buzz-kill, a real downer! I then find myself sitting around more; being more of a wallflower...or I'll dance doing minimal footwork.
Is it just me???
Aaah, but don't forget, you're also a dancer in many ways that others aren't. By that I mean you've trained and train professionally as a dancer so perhaps you were introduced to the 'highs' of dancing in a class surrounded by others like you. Me for example, got into dancing night life style + "dance aides." Any spiritual connections I make to dancing are more due to my Mum being a bit heavy handed with the christian upbringing than they are drug induced or even endorphin induced. ![[rofl]](graemlins/rofl.gif)
"Truly feeling free" - You can bet I'm breaking the meaning of that (to me) in a million and one ways. Interesting dialogue.
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Hater: I like that name. ![[Hail]](hail.gif)
This is a lil off topic, but it humors me when some trained dancers go out to the clubs. They don't seem to let themselves go; they get caught into the technique of it all.
Before you go breaking it down and slicing it all up; know that not every time do I get the high that frees me and opens me up; there are other variables that come into play.
[/QUOTE]Aaah, but don't forget, you're also a dancer in many ways that others aren't. By that I mean you've trained and train professionally as a dancer so perhaps you were introduced to the 'highs' of dancing in a class surrounded by others like you. Me for example, got into dancing night life style + "dance aides." Any spiritual connections I make to dancing are more due to my Mum being a bit heavy handed with the christian upbringing than they are drug induced or even endorphin induced.
"Truly feeling free" - You can bet I'm breaking the meaning of that (to me) in a million and one ways. Interesting dialogue. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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sure! But I also see colors> has nothing to do with feeling free but more to do with the high! I better shutup before you think I am a real loon! ![[grinyes]](graemlins/grinyes.gif)
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truly feeling free = uninhibited?
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same with "classicly trained" musicians who are now trying to get into commercial/"folk" music. That is to say, not art music, that is to say, music for the masses, that is to say, I'm an insecure snob trying to hide my insecurities through a false veneer.
whether it's education/training, artificial stimulants, or anything else holding us back, there is ALWAYS something holding us back, and we are all just trying to get closer to the "SOURCE", and to get there, means freedom (and open-minded tolerance/compassion).
and with freedom comes a new understanding, and with that comes new responsibilities.
how's that for abstract mumbo-jumbo?
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whether it's education/training, artificial stimulants, or anything else holding us back, there is ALWAYS something holding us back, and we are all just trying to get closer to the "SOURCE", and to get there, means freedom (and open-minded tolerance/compassion).
and with freedom comes a new understanding, and with that comes new responsibilities.
I believe this very much. Ultimately I do believe au natural is the way the God in all of us wishes to be manifest. I mean if the sound = creation theory is what's up, then we should be able to create some pretty amazing things just by speaking it ... that's some au natural confidence jonx I'd be down with ... Sometimes the energy exerted finding a cover up for whatever insecurity we have makes the coming out process almost easy. ![[drunk]](graemlins/all_coholic.gif) ![[biglaugha]](graemlins/biglaugha.gif)
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sure! But I also see colors> has nothing to do with feeling free but more to do with the high! I better shutup before you think I am a real loon!
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truly feeling free = uninhibited?
Hahahaha .. I think I get this too.
Much as I'm down for au natural, I KNOW some of the feelings I've had all clear could rival any high of the past.
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Au natural is a high but pursuing a high is a cover for the natural high we could otherwise be experiencing. Hmm ... ![[Cool]](icon_rofl.gif)
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i wish you wouldn't
this is the sort of stuff i want to understand or hear more about
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sure! But I also see colors> has nothing to do with feeling free but more to do with the high! I better shutup before you think I am a real loon!
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truly feeling free = uninhibited?
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I used to take drugs and dance to house. I can go to a house night (or any night) and have a good dance so long as there's a good crowd and good music.
Not often I dance alcohol free thought I must admit.
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good topic.
i don't smoke or drink. last year the bartender at red made me a really small heavy drink that i sipped out of courtsey. my heart raced while i was dancing and i thought i was having hot flashes. all i can remember is how do ppl do it, drink one to 4 drinks and dance up a storm. i couldn't do it.
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GOtta drink to dance and ciggarette too.. ![[Angel]](biggrinangel.gif)
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Yea, truly late but found it nonetheless. Thank you THWoman. I have been dancing on n off since the Mid 70's. It started with the heavy use of stimulants and weed. Growing up in those times drugs came with the territory, to a certain extent. In the Garage,if you drank from the punch then you were trippin without even knowing you were tripping. While back then it was the thing to do, it also led me down a path I would have otherwise chosen to live without, knowing what I know now. That said, I've been drug n alcohol free since 83 and have truly enjoyed being able to experience dance and house in its purest form, to me that is. Where it is me thru a clear, concious and clean frame of mind that I feel more therefore am able to express myself more clearly and openly. While to a certain extent, i'm am in a way exorcising some of the demons of my youth, I am also feeding off the energy of the other dancers, the music, the spirit that is much more clear to me now than when I was self-absorbed by the selfish need to escape or more to the point "not feel" the pains of my fears, insecurities, shortcomings and just life in general. I know I would not be the same person I am today without travelling the road which is my life up to this point, i'm just grateful for the opportunity to still be able to express myself in a way that only few understand or are capable of sharing their spirit with us. I sometimes sit back while catchin my breath and just can't stop smiling at the headz that are in that place. I can vibe with them without lifting an arm or a leg but know exactly what they feel and why they're feeling it. I wish I could really grow the strength and skill to be able to truly work the floor like I used to but am, again, truly grateful to be able to express myself thru dance and our shared love of both dance and house music. Peace, Ray.
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I don't think it is really possible to dance when high or drunk. You THINK you're getting your groove on when your trippin, but you are really just a hot mess bumping into everyone.
I've been on both sides of the fence. Sober is better...period.
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