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Junior... what the fuk you need religion for? Use your own brain. Explore your own spirituality. (check out Taoism by the way but just for the learning)

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Don'tttt force your athiesm on me devil boy nah, I was just taking the piss because every religion is analysed the fuck out of these days but we don't hear shit about Buddhists cos their too busy doing their own thing

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from da two babylon guy..... http://philologos.org/__eb-ttb/sect54.htm

Every one knows how thoroughly Romanist is the use of the rosary; and how the devotees of Rome mechanically tell their prayers upon their beads. The rosary, however, is no invention of the Papacy. It is of the highest antiquity, and almost universally found among Pagan nations. The rosary was used as a sacred instrument among the ancient Mexicans. It is commonly employed among the Brahmins of Hindustan; and in the Hindoo sacred books reference is made to it again and again. Thus, in an account of the death of Sati, the wife of Shiva, we find the rosary introduced: "On hearing of this event, Shiva fainted from grief; then, having recovered, he hastened to the banks of the river of heaven, where he beheld lying the body of his beloved Sati, arrayed in white garments, holding a rosary in her hand, and glowing with splendour, bright as burnished gold." In Thibet it has been used from time immemorial, and among all the millions in the East that adhere to the Buddhist faith.


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So...we won? Cool. A lotta niggas owe me some money.

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Junior... what the fuk you need religion for? Use your own brain. Explore your own spirituality. (check out Taoism by the way but just for the learning)

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Don'tttt force your athiesm on me devil boy nah, I was just taking the piss because every religion is analysed the fuck out of these days but we don't hear shit about Buddhists cos their too busy doing their own thing

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from da two babylon guy..... http://philologos.org/__eb-ttb/sect54.htm

Every one knows how thoroughly Romanist is the use of the rosary; and how the devotees of Rome mechanically tell their prayers upon their beads. The rosary, however, is no invention of the Papacy. It is of the highest antiquity, and almost universally found among Pagan nations. The rosary was used as a sacred instrument among the ancient Mexicans. It is commonly employed among the Brahmins of Hindustan; and in the Hindoo sacred books reference is made to it again and again. Thus, in an account of the death of Sati, the wife of Shiva, we find the rosary introduced: "On hearing of this event, Shiva fainted from grief; then, having recovered, he hastened to the banks of the river of heaven, where he beheld lying the body of his beloved Sati, arrayed in white garments, holding a rosary in her hand, and glowing with splendour, bright as burnished gold." In Thibet it has been used from time immemorial, and among all the millions in the East that adhere to the Buddhist faith.


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Man i havent seen one buddhist suicide bomber ..... although... Kamikazi ... hrmmm ..

still point im trying to make is religions fighting each other is stupid... They have to work together to get the most out of the human race

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http://philologos.org/__eb-ttb/sect42.htm

" the Chaldean doctrine was that it was by works and merits of men themselves that they must be justified and accepted of God."

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Advent of `Buddhist terrorism'

By: G.G Ponnambalam

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The Tamils in this island known as Sri Lanka have been at the receiving end of, firstly, Sinhala terrorism and next, state terrorism. Today the Tamils have tasted Buddhist terrorism for the first time.
The National Movement against Terrorism (NMAT) and the Sinhala Veera Vidhanaya (SVV) held a joint demonstration on June 2, 1999 (Wednesday). This demonstration took the form of a procession starting from the Mahaweli Centre to Temple Trees and back. At Temple Trees they were to hand over a memorandum of sorts.

The procession went to an entrance (?)/exit of Temple Trees on Galle Road not knowing that has been, for years, the backdoor of Temple Trees! So, naturally, there was none to accept the all-important memorandum.

On the way back to Mahaweli Centre, the procession, headed by Sobitha Thero, piqued at not having been able to hand over the memorandum to the authorities, entered the Ceylon Workers' Congress (CWC) headquarters' prem- ises, pulled down the CWC party flag, burnt it and hoisted, instead, the flag of either the NMAT or the SVV. All this was done under the leadership of Sobitha Thero and in the presence of DIG T.N. de Silva and a number of armed policemen. The procession included many other Buddhist priests. This incident has surely heralded the advent of Buddhist terrorism.

As everyone knows, the CWC is a workers' organisation exclusively comprising hill-country Tamils.

It is significant, sinister, surprising and sordid that the national media, electronic and print, English and vernacular, have chosen to soft-pedal and play down this incident. The daily newspapers had hardly anything on this incident. The Sunday newspapers completely sidelined this issue. Some of the weekend newspapers are usually full of the NMAT, the SVV, the National Joint Committee, the Sinhala Commission, etc. Why have they all been silent on this matter when they are always so full of the LTTE and its artocities?

Why this silence?

Have all these people been silent because Sobitha Thero and other members of the Sangha Ratna are involved? Is it because they recognise the advent of Buddhist terrorism? Is it the `apey man' syndrome and let us not let down our side? Is it plain discrimination - if it concerns Tamils, let us bash them up; if it concerns the Sinhalese, let us keep quiet? Is it simply, that the Sinhala quarter is shy and want to hang its head in shame? Or is it that might is right? Where are all the right thinking persons who write to the papers regularly about the unreasonableness of the Tamils?

Anyway, let the international community, at least who are unaccountably mesmerised today by some of the things that are done in this island and also by some personalities in this country, take serious note of this incident if they are to be taken seriously by us.

A few years ago, the ultra Sinhala nationalists and the upholders of the Buddhist faith created a din and hullabaloo that Dr. Stanley J. Tambiah should have written a book about Buddhism Betrayed and should have had on the cover of the book, a picture of Sobitha Thero flexing his muscles. Has not the recent incident vindicated Tambiah hundred per cent, both about the book and about its cover picture? How prophetic Stanley Tambiah has been. Three hearty cheers for Tambiah!

Sobitha Thero and his band of followers who are Buddhist monks have now entered the political arena in a big way. From now onwards, such Buddhist monks cannot expect to be treated with reverence or in any special way. They must be treated like any ordinary politician who receives brickbats and I, for one, will look upon them just like that.

Where did law and order go on this occasion? All what was done was under the very nose of the DIG. Did this DIG act impotent because of what happened to SSP Pujitha Jayasundera? Facts reveal offences not only under the Penal Come but also under the Prevention of Terrorism Act.

If Kumar Ponnambalam say or does, something there is a public outcry for his flesh and blood by Buddhist Sinhalese. But if Sobitha Thero they goes against the law, there is stony silence. One law for Ponnambalam and another for Sobitha Thero? In the face of such crass discrimination, can the Sinhalese and Tamils live together?

What are these organisations - the National Movement Against Terrorism and the National Joint Committee? To call themselves `national', can these organisations point out to one Tamil or Moor or Burgher in these organisations? Can they say that these organisations are `national' in that they are nationwide? If not, why this dishonesty? Would it not be more honest to call these organisations simply the Sinhala Movement Against Terrorism and the Sinhala Joint Committee?

`Tamil Terrorism'

Actually, it will be more appropriate to call the NMAT the Sinhala Movement Against Terrorism because in its "National Plan of Action Against Terrorism which they put out six months ago, they refer to `Tamil terrorism' in its very first line. All this while, vociferous Sinhalese would refer to `Tiger terrorism'. But now, `Tamil terrorism'.

Many Tamils have discussed the NMAT and SVV with me in the very recent past with special reference to what these two organisations, in particular, stand for. I have told them thank God for such organisations because it is such organisations that justify the necessity for the separate state of Tamil Eelam.

The foolish NMAT, while time and again referring to `Tamil Terrorism', also says that there is a "need to distinguish between the Tamil community and the Tamil Tiger movement". What muddle-headness!

Let me put the record straight, here and now. The Tamils have long since ceased to look upon themselves either as a `community' or as a `minority'. They Tamils of the north and east are a ` nation' and that must be understood finally and by all and sundry.

I was amused to read the assertion in NMAT's high-faluting national plan where it meekly says "the fact that the Sinhalese as whole are not a racist community have (sic) been amply proved since 1983" and proceeds to mention events which have not provoked the Sinhalese.

Racist before 1983?

This proves a number of points. Firstly, that the Sinhalese were racists before 1983. Secondly, for the new brand of Sinhalese nationalists, the history of this island starts only at 1983 because it is only after that date that they have been on their best behaviour, and thirdly, if the Sinhalese have remained good boys after 1983 it has been due to the fact that the LTTE have also come to Colombo. Remember Black Friday (Tiger Friday) in late July 1983, when the whole of Colombo was running helter-skelter?

What is equally amusing is that the NMAT also refers to "innocent Tamils". No Tamil is going to be taken in by these crocodile tears. What is this SVV that was formed only a couple of months ago? One of the positions of this organisation is that this blessed island is Sinhala land and Buddhist country! Naturally there is a fight to rescue Tamil Eelam before it, too, is dragged into the moire.

All these various Sinhalese organisations take the position that there is no Tamil problem but only a terrorist problem and that once terrorism is wiped out by military action everything is tickety-boo and nothing further needs be done. So it was hilarious to me to see the representatives of these Sinhalese organisations accepting some draft proposals for either a new constitution or for amendment of the present constitution prepared by the Sinhala Commission.

More than a new constitution or other amendments to the present constitution is the need to have the Sixth Amendment to the Constitution, which makes it an offence to espouse separation, repealed immediately. This draconian piece of unheard-of legislation was passed in 1983 when no Tamil member of Parliament was present either during its debate or at voting time. It was made law when one party had a five-sixths majority of members in parliament.

After it came on to the statute book, there was an outcry from all sections of the Tamils that it must be removed. There is no country in the world that has any legislation such as this. The Sixth Amendment violates basic fundamental and human rights. It violates the freedoms of speech, association, assembly and expression.

Sixth amendment

A provision such as the Sixth Amendment will not prevent the break-up of a country if that country has to break up. There is no sanctity in seeing that a country does not break up. Massive countries have broken up during the past decade. The order of the day is for countries to break up. There is no sanctity in clinging on to one another if we Sinhalese and Tamils cannot live together. People live together only on the basis of equality. Master and slave never could live together.

It is my position that if the Tamils are to live with self-respect and dignity, they can do so only in the separate state of Tamil Eelam. This is my fervent opinion and I must be allowed to freely express my opinion without the threat of imprisonment. For one's physical body can be subject to imprisonment, but one's mind cannot be tampered with. Only a third grade and barbaric country would want to muzzle an individual's free expression of his belief.

(G. G. Ponnambalam is the General Secretary, All-Ceylon Tamil Congress)
Courtesy :Sunday Leader - June 20th,1999.

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